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How could there not be another Sega Console?

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neITandrogyny

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I am sure there will be another Sega console. Even though the Dreamcast is 1998 technology it is still ahead of its time in ways.

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The odds of Sega releasing new hardware is slim to nill at this point. It just doesn't make any sense from a business perspective.

Most Japanese game companies tend to heavily focus on the domestic market. Right now, consoles and console games aren't doing very well over there. Gamers are increasingly turning to mobile and online titles.

After Sonic Boom for the Wii U bombed hard last year, Sega announced that they would be moving their resources to focus on those two avenues. As well as their already lucrative gambling (pachinko) properties. If you look at their list of upcoming games, only Yakuza 5 will be coming to console. The game has already been out three years in Japan, and is only now getting world wide localization. It's also going to be a PlayStation 3 exclusive. It will not be coming to current gen systems. That says a lot.

Most big Japanese publishers are doing the same thing. Both Capcom and Konami will be moving away from consoles. Even Nintendo is struggling, and has started releasing games for mobile.

Here in North America, Sega lost a lot of goodwill with gamers for ending the lives of the Saturn and Dreamcast so quickly. They lost a lot of clout in the industry after that, as well as a lot of money. More recent stinkers like Sonic Book and Aliens: Colonial Marines further eroded their reputation. If they did release new hardware, I think it would be looked upon with skepticism.
 
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yeah don't think its going to happen. Dreamcast was great but I unloaded it just before Sega gave up and the $99 price drop(to unload what they had left). I had already played everything and nothing new was coming I wanted to play. Had I waited another month or two I would have had to about give it away.
 
Sniper82 said:
yeah don't think its going to happen. Dreamcast was great but I unloaded it just before Sega gave up and the $99 price drop(to unload what they had left). I had already played everything and nothing new was coming I wanted to play. Had I waited another month or two I would have had to about give it away.
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The Dreamcast was a forward thinking system, despite not having dual analogues. It just didn't have much of a third party library, and Sega's first party franchises were already getting stale by that point. I don't remember anybody in my school owning one. You either had PlayStation or N64, or later the PS2.

It's a shame because the Genesis still is my favourite console of all time.
 
I'm trying to think of the need this day for another console. It would either have to have one heck of a first party library or be like all the rest. Look at how Nintendo struggles and they are known for their first party games. Sega, not so much.
 
Sega doesn't have the money to back a hardware release.

The Dreamcast happened at the wrong time, it was the victim of the badly done Saturn. I loved my Dreamcast; keyboard, mouse, NetBSD and Linux bootstrap CD's, broadband module, Crazy Taxi, NFL 2K2, Space Channel 5, etc.
 
KentState said:
I'm trying to think of the need this day for another console. It would either have to have one heck of a first party library or be like all the rest. Look at how Nintendo struggles and they are known for their first party games. Sega, not so much.
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We saw a lot more consoles back the day. Was there a need? No, but a bunch of companies wanted a piece of that growing market. It's a much more mature market now, not sure much longer Nintendo can afford to to be a third place console.
 
iluvdeal said:
We saw a lot more consoles back the day. Was there a need? No, but a bunch of companies wanted a piece of that growing market. It's a much more mature market now, not sure much longer Nintendo can afford to to be a third place console.
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We never had more than three major consoles per generation just like today. It used to be Sega and Nintendo battling it and now it's Sony and MS.
 
Yep, the Saturn sank Sega. I get that a lot of retro collectors do enjoy it. Still doesn't escape the fact that it was an awful system even when it was new. Ugly graphics (even for the time), difficult to program games for, botched surprise launch, no Sonic. If you weren't into 2D fighting games and spaceship shooters, there was just no point in having one.

iluvdeal said:
We saw a lot more consoles back the day. Was there a need? No, but a bunch of companies wanted a piece of that growing market. It's a much more mature market now, not sure much longer Nintendo can afford to to be a third place console.
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Sega's success against Nintendo during the early 90s is what convinced all those companies to grab a piece of the pie. Of those, only Sony really understood why Sega had done so well in the first place. Which is why they're still around today.

I think history has proven that there's only room for three consoles, with one always being the dominant system. The only real secret to it is giving gamers what they want.
 
KentState said:
We never had more than three major consoles per generation just like today. It used to be Sega and Nintendo battling it and now it's Sony and MS.
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Back in the 90's there was at least 10-12 consoles, Neo Geo, 3DO, Jaguar, Sega Genesis/Megadrive/Saturn, Super Nintendo and N64, Playstation, the hilarious Pioneer LaserActive, and even Apple had one with the Bandai.
 
Sega of Japan really boned the market with crappy add ons and poor timing. Saturn being prematurely launched at E3 didn't help and the games never really came out for it. Dreamcast came a long way too early as well. Segas main problem was too many products. Sega had over half the market in the early 90's and then gave it all away.
 
mmntech said:
Yep, the Saturn sank Sega. I get that a lot of retro collectors do enjoy it. Still doesn't escape the fact that it was an awful system even when it was new. Ugly graphics (even for the time), difficult to program games for, botched surprise launch, no Sonic. If you weren't into 2D fighting games and spaceship shooters, there was just no point in having one.
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Nights was pretty awesome. And Dragon Force is still one of my alltime favorite games ever.
 
mmntech said:
Yep, the Saturn sank Sega. I get that a lot of retro collectors do enjoy it. Still doesn't escape the fact that it was an awful system even when it was new. Ugly graphics (even for the time), difficult to program games for, botched surprise launch, no Sonic. If you weren't into 2D fighting games and spaceship shooters, there was just no point in having one.



Sega's success against Nintendo during the early 90s is what convinced all those companies to grab a piece of the pie. Of those, only Sony really understood why Sega had done so well in the first place. Which is why they're still around today.

I think history has proven that there's only room for three consoles, with one always being the dominant system. The only real secret to it is giving gamers what they want.
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The graphics were pretty damn comparable to the PS games at the time and Youtube videos easily show this
 
At least they went out with one of the best systems ever made. I got the Dreamcast on a lark and ended up shocked at the quality of graphics and games. I can assure you it took about 2 years for the PS2 to release a game that looked better than the best Dreamcast games.

That's not to say it was all about graphics. Games like Seaman and Samba de Amigo were a lot of fun and very different from the standard controller games.
 
Sega still builds hardware, except they're arcade systems, and they're really just PCs with a brand name, and probably the only place they really sell is Japan.

Yeah...
 
I enjoyed all those dreamcast exclusives back then. Crazy taxi, phantasy star, house of the dead 2 with the import guns, virtual on, soul calibur. It had some impressive launch games too. But they haven't been the same sega.
 
Dreamcast was amazing. If not for the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn it probably would have been a hit. As for the topic at hand, it'll never happen. Sega exited the console business almost altogether. They can't be bothered to make a good game these days, much less a hardware. For that matter even Microsoft in hindsight probably should not have bothered with gaming hardware. It has been a huge black hole for profit ever since the start and even in the years it crossed into the black as "profitable" I doubt they've recouped every cent sunk into Xbox over the years building the brand.
 
Amazing the Saturn still failed despite advertising like this.

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