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How could ANYONE support the use of Nukes ?!?!

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A single Nukes can INDISCRIMINTLY KILL MILLIONS of INNOCENT PEOPLE (including countless of children who may never heard of OSam), i can not think of one good reason to use a nuke against Afgan, Bin Laden or no Bin Laden.

If you support the above action, what makes you better than Bin Laden himself ?


Crashing a Plane into a building --> Cowardly
Firing a Weapon of Mass Destruction into a civilian population --> Cowardly

Calling them 'Casualties of War' sounds a lot like something a terrorist would do.
 
Just like fries at McDonalds, nukes come in regular, large and supersize. Fear not, there is a right size of nuke for the job.
 
We may not have a choice, if Bin Laden has nukes already, and uses them first.:Q
 
If you support the above action, what makes you better than Bin Laden himself ?

Nothing, but then it's not like we're better than Bin Laden to begin with, so we might as well just win this war at whatever the cost, for the sake of the rest of the world as well as ourselves.
 
A single Nukes can INDISCRIMINTLY KILL MILLIONS of INNOCENT PEOPLE (including countless of children who may never heard of OSam), i can not think of one good reason to use a nuke against Afgan, Bin Laden or no Bin Laden.

First off, that would only happen in a highly dense population, which Afghanistan is not.

Second place, like Rogue already said, nukes aren't a on/off type deal, there are varying degrees.

Nuclear force ended WWII, & while I do not blindly support the use of nukes under these circumstances I will support my country's leaders if that is the weapon they choose to use.

We have not used them for over 50 years, I seriously doubt we will now.

Viper GTS
 
can anyone say fallout? now lets all rush to our local homedepot and get ourselves some cement to make a bombshelter :Q
 
If consider the impact of the Nukes in Japan, probably equal to the weakest nukes we have avaible, the damage they caused was plenty enough to destroy two major cities.

Think of it this way, if someone fired a nuke on London tonight, the entire city would be gone when we woke up tommorow.
 
Oh c'mon!!! I was in Germany when Chernobyl went up! The fallout didn't affect me at all! Wait, uhhhh.....never mind. 😀
 
simple math equation

nukes /= armageddon

why fire 100 cruise missiles when one 5 kiloton nuke can do the same amount of damage and be a lot easier, safer, and cheaper to do.
 
why fire 100 cruise missiles when one 5 kiloton nuke can do the same amount of damage and be a lot easier, SAFER, and cheaper to do.

did you just say safer?
you got any sources for that claim?

what they did, crashing those planes, was very very smart whether we like it or not, and not cowardly ==> their aim is to inflict maximum pain with minimal manpower and they got what they wanted. now we have to respond in some way, but not with nukes.
 


<< How could ANYONE support the use of Nukes ?!?! >>

Because they do a really good job and are VERY effective? I give up, am I missing something?
 
Hey War.

You know what WAR is....it's Machieavellian (man, I butchered that spelling)

Ends Justify the Means.
We've got hundreds if not thousands of advisors up there in DC smarter than you or I (by information they have, and knowledge of our arsenal). If they decide to NUKE, then I will support them. If they don't, then I will support them. Look at Harry Truman. Do you agree with what he did? If you don't then you may not understand what his decision was based on. (not just saving american lives). Perhaps, our leaders will be faced with the same decision. Who knows.

As an earlier post said, We didn't start the war. But we'll finish it. It's survival of the fittest on our planet, and survival comes above all else. IF anyone out there thinks this is the last terrorist attack we're going to experience, then I say you're on drugs. I'm all for doing whatever we HAVE to do to eradicate the world of the plague of terrorists.

I don't think they'll use Nukes becuase AFGHAN is sooo mountainous. They'd have to send a lot & there'd be a radiation problem afterward. If they can pin Assama down to a 100 mile range, I would see them sending one right up his tail end though.



If we can concretely find evidence that Assama has a NUKE, we'll fire an array of NUKES so large he'll never be able to get his off the ground.
 


<< Because they do a really good job and are VERY effective? I give up, am I missing something? >>



Effective at what? Killing innocent people as well as the bad?
 
The first use of nuclear weapons will make it that much easier for the next country to apply a nuclear solution and that in turn makes it easier for the next one and so on. Slippery slope and before you know it we're back to cockroaches.

Nuclear weapons, even the smaller tactical variety are not meant to be used as first-strike weapons. They should never, ever be used.
 


<< He fires a nuke at us, we repond in kind......can anyone say 'The Last Great War' >>




couple things here.

first off, he can't "fire" a nuke at us. only about 3 countries have ICBM's that can reach us. us, china, and russia. everyone else can only reach a few thousand miles at best.

what we have to worry about is those "suit case" nukes. however, something like that sounds like it would end up being a dud.

i'd be more worried about biological weapons and chemicals if i was you.
 
I guess you guys haven't heard of tactical nukes that only effect like a 5 or 10sq mile area. None of those 500 kiloton monsters. Those would be good to use against Osama if we decided that we absolutely need to use them. Even with those small ones, i still don't support the use of nukes.
 
Well, Afghanistan supports Bin Laden. If they as a people didnt, then they wouldnt let him stay there. Did ya think about that genius? I say we slag that country with something in the order of a 25 or 30 megaton "tactical" nuke. Then, we can tactically eliminate ALL supporters int eh region, even those hidin in them there holes. Smoke'm out? Hell, lets just smoke'm.
 
a 30 megaton nuke would wipe out the whole country allright. maybe not the initial explosion, allthough that would take out hundreds of square miles, but the radioactive fallout years later.

Whatever Bushy does, I'm behind him though.
 


<< Well, Afghanistan supports Bin Laden. If they as a people didnt, then they wouldnt let him stay there. >>

I doubt that's true of the typical Afgan. The dictatorship (Talibad) apparently received aid from Laden in past conflicts. That's why they like him. But that's just their "government", not the people.

In any case not voluntarily giving him up to global authorities could be the first step toward Afganistan's demise.
 


<< Effective at what? Killing innocent people as well as the bad? >>

War's a bitch, ain't it?

When someone devises a weapon that incapacitates everyone with love and fragrant flowers and little glitter fairies who sing them to sleep, while we then go and get only those we want, well by darned I'll be all for that. Until then, we got weapons that kill people and break things.
 
The use of nukes should never ever be used. What the hell are we doing with it?!
What happen to our oath to ban the use of nukes, I guess we lied! So far only the U.S. in the past has use them and that make us arrogant and reckless with it.
Hmm I guess history does repeat itself and i hate to be a part of this ugly world that is like living between hell and heaven.
First the bomb was invented then a very big one called nukes, im not surprised at all. It just getting more destructive all the time.Such a small world isn't it? That pretty soon we going to go armagedon. But oh well this is a very strange world we live in, that I'm quite lost.


 


<< a 30 megaton nuke would wipe out the whole country allright >>



I think this is utter nonsense! Where do you get your information on the effective radius of a nuclear weapon?
 
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