How come there is no VCD Recorders? (what about DivX recorders) instead of still VCR we use?

[xtreme2k]

I have actually seen realtime DVD-RAM recorders but they only record 1/2/4Hours of Video and they cost a lot HK$13000+ here (divide by 7.8 to get US$)

but then how come there is no simplier VCD or even better DivX recorders

i mean... CDRW/CDR are so cheap now... especially CDRW, we can record and record and record on it...

why arent they making them~??

 

[Tominator]

Before they sell the new improved product, the market must be saturated with the old and lousy. When CDrom recorders take a dive in sales, they'll start selling affordable DVD recorders...it's about sales figures....

 

[xtreme2k]

recorders i mean those things u use to record TV series and stuff of the TV

those VCR thing has been around for YEARSSSSSSSSSS

and they are still here

 

[Yoshi]

I understand that recordable DVD technology is developed and available in Asia. In the US, I'm sure there is a ton of red tape dealing with copyright law keeping the tech low key for the time being. Can't speak for other parts of the world. Also, I don't think there is really a huge demand for it yet. Hardcore digital video editors will just use hard drive space. Most consumers can easily meet their backup needs on CDR's.

 

[Robor]

I don't think CDRW would be a viable format. It doesn't have the capacity to store that kind of data. I've got DSS (Satelite Direct TV) and when recording to VCR I lose too much quality to make it worthwhile. What would be nice is a affordable rewriteable DVD that could store several hours of data like the current DVD's. But like Yoshi said the US and their neverending wave of copyrights and lawyers will put that down as long as possible.

Rob

 

[CQuinn]

Overall, we still need another generation of CDRW recorders to pass
before a VDR (Video Data Recorder) using CDs is viable.
The problem isn't speed, its latency.
Even the massive IDE hard drives that can be bought these days are
barely acceptable for high quality/high speed recording and encoding
of a video stream. And that will become even more of a problem as
the original video quality improves (DVD, Satellite, and HDTV sources).
We are only just seeing CDRW recorders that can come close to
the sustained data rate needed for VCD quality video.

(I'm not making a prediction here, but)
The first systems to enable VDR will probably have a fairly fast
hard drive to record/encode the incoming video stream, and then
pass that stream to the CD-Burner as a more "permanent" recording.

VCD is a variant of the MPEG-1 spec, meaning it has lower resolution
and data rate than MPEG-2 (DVD specs). This results in lower average
video quality, particularly if you are trying to fit more than an hour
of video onto a single CD. VCD became more popular in the eastern
markets while the west held off in favor of DVD standards
(DVD was more acceptable for recording a full length film on a single
side of a single disk).

DivX is a variant on the MPEG-4 spec (actually, its started as a hack
of the Microsoft MPEG-4 Codecs). Because of that, it will never be
officially accepted as a video standard by any company that wants to
stay in business with the MPAA and DVD consortiums.
(MPEG-4 will be released by TPTB in some other form, because it can
offer the same quality as MPEG-2/DVD, with much better compression).
DivX/MPEG4 is also likely to be a more expensive format, because it
needs more CPU horsepower for encoding/decoding than the earlier formats.

Expect to see VCRs and TiVo/ReplayTV remain the standards for home
recording for a few years to come.

 

[xtreme2k]

CQ i dont see how lantency as a problem here by using CDRW as a realtime Video Recorder
please explain

i am very interested in this CDRW/DVD as consumer (home electronic equipment and nonrelating to computers necessary) as i think it IS a variable option as to tape... which is getting rather damn old

i mean
we can do it with out computer, realtime capture live video and encode them, why cant there be a consumer electronic product that just do that and burns a CDR out of that in real time?

CDR might not give enough quality tho i must say

those DVD-RAM i saw that is really made is rather cool anyhow

actually there is a 'hard disk based' video recorder by sony but then hell it has 30GB space but only record a few hours of video

DVD-RAM can record up to 4Hours on a 4.7G DVD-RAM using 'Long Play-mode' per disk
each disk cost HK$200 (divide by 7.8 for those US$)
rather expensive also but acceptable in the long run