How come some TV can play PAL dvds and some can't?

BamBam215

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PAL movies work fine on my 27" JVC I'Art. It works fine on a lot of various TV's that my friends own. But then it won't work on others. The refresh rate and color would be all screwed up. I noticed that it tends to not work on bigger, more expensive TVs (projections, etc.). I'm not sure if this is just a coincidence though.

Does anyone know exactly why? I know it's not the disc or DVD player because the PAL dvds I use, I ripped, took off the region code and reburn them to test it out. Same deal.
 

BamBam215

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Originally posted by: iloveme2
cause TVs in the US are NTSC and not PAL.


Like I said, my TV can play PAL dvds. And some of my other friends various TV brands can as well. What I'm trying to find out is why some can and some can't.
 

LethalWolfe

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when you burned the dics did you burn them as PAL or NTSC and are you using one DVD player and hooking them up to the different TVs to test this out or are you just using whatever DVD player happends to be hooked up to the TV?


Lethal
 

BamBam215

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I don't convert the PAL dvds to NTSC. I just rip them and then use IFOedit to take out the region coding limit (i.e. adding region 1-7 to the discs). I know it's not a DVD player issue because the discs will play. But the output will be garbled images and discoloration (due to the different refresh rates).
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: iloveme2
cause TVs in the US are NTSC and not PAL.


Like I said, my TV can play PAL dvds. And some of my other friends various TV brands can as well. What I'm trying to find out is why some can and some can't.

because, some (most) manufacturers do not design their tv's with both formats in mind. PAL is a European television format while NTSC (Never Twice the Same Color ;) j/k) is a US based television format.
 
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Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: iloveme2
cause TVs in the US are NTSC and not PAL.


Like I said, my TV can play PAL dvds. And some of my other friends various TV brands can as well. What I'm trying to find out is why some can and some can't.

Because those who can are dual-sytem TV's.
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kazeakuma

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Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: iloveme2
cause TVs in the US are NTSC and not PAL.


Like I said, my TV can play PAL dvds. And some of my other friends various TV brands can as well. What I'm trying to find out is why some can and some can't.

because, some (most) manufacturers do not design their tv's with both formats in mind. PAL is a European television format while NTSC (Never Twice the Same Color ;) j/k) is a US based television format.

I'm wondering how it plays on some and can't on others. They're not HDTVs or anything are they? It would seem to me that 99% of NTSC TVs wouldn't play PAL videos because PAL has far more resolution than NTSC. IIRC 576 vs 480. So while it is fairly easy to convert NTSC over on new PAL tvs (supporting 60hz refresh rate) I don't see how an NTSC TV could play PAL video footage, unless it had higher resolution than normal (hdtv) or did some funky converting.
 

BamBam215

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: iloveme2
cause TVs in the US are NTSC and not PAL.


Like I said, my TV can play PAL dvds. And some of my other friends various TV brands can as well. What I'm trying to find out is why some can and some can't.

Because those who can are dual-sytem TV's.
rolleye.gif


By any chance, is your name Dick? Cuz you sound like one.
 

BamBam215

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Originally posted by: kazeakuma
Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: iloveme2
cause TVs in the US are NTSC and not PAL.


Like I said, my TV can play PAL dvds. And some of my other friends various TV brands can as well. What I'm trying to find out is why some can and some can't.

because, some (most) manufacturers do not design their tv's with both formats in mind. PAL is a European television format while NTSC (Never Twice the Same Color ;) j/k) is a US based television format.

I'm wondering how it plays on some and can't on others. They're not HDTVs or anything are they? It would seem to me that 99% of NTSC TVs wouldn't play PAL videos because PAL has far more resolution than NTSC. IIRC 576 vs 480. So while it is fairly easy to convert NTSC over on new PAL tvs (supporting 60hz refresh rate) I don't see how an NTSC TV could play PAL video footage, unless it had higher resolution than normal (hdtv) or did some funky converting.


None of them are HDTVs. We're talking about old sets to new sets that can play PALs and that can't play PAL.

 

kazeakuma

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Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: kazeakuma
Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: iloveme2
cause TVs in the US are NTSC and not PAL.


Like I said, my TV can play PAL dvds. And some of my other friends various TV brands can as well. What I'm trying to find out is why some can and some can't.

because, some (most) manufacturers do not design their tv's with both formats in mind. PAL is a European television format while NTSC (Never Twice the Same Color ;) j/k) is a US based television format.

I'm wondering how it plays on some and can't on others. They're not HDTVs or anything are they? It would seem to me that 99% of NTSC TVs wouldn't play PAL videos because PAL has far more resolution than NTSC. IIRC 576 vs 480. So while it is fairly easy to convert NTSC over on new PAL tvs (supporting 60hz refresh rate) I don't see how an NTSC TV could play PAL video footage, unless it had higher resolution than normal (hdtv) or did some funky converting.


None of them are HDTVs. We're talking about old sets to new sets that can play PALs and that can't play PAL.

I'm guessing that it's probably dual mode tvs the others are mentioning. I didn't even know they existed, but then I don't live in the states.
 
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Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: iloveme2
cause TVs in the US are NTSC and not PAL.


Like I said, my TV can play PAL dvds. And some of my other friends various TV brands can as well. What I'm trying to find out is why some can and some can't.

Because those who can are dual-sytem TV's.
rolleye.gif


By any chance, is your name Dick? Cuz you sound like one.

Um, no. I probably didn't get what you meant. If it plays PAL and NTSC it is dual-system. Does that make me a dick?