How come kosher beef....

Philippine Mango

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How come kosher beef only uses the front quarters of the cow and not the rear? What is wrong with the top rear portion? If you're going to cut up the cow, why can't they use front to back, upper portion only?
 

ThePresence

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Part of laws of Kashrus. There are areas of the cow which cannot be eaten. You will not get a logical answer, it's a matter of faith.

The areas that have to be removed from the hindquarters are extensive, and it doesn't make sense to try to get rid of all of them, it's costs to much, so they just sell it off.

<--Has always eaten kosher.
 

cKGunslinger

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Because, thems the rules. :confused:

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Kosher: Kosher beef is processed using specific guidelines of Jewish law and with the supervision of special rabbis. Kosher beef must also be cooked and consumed using specific guidelines. The strict rules of slaughtering have necessitated the creation of regional centers where the slaughtering is performed. The meat is then shipped to local butchers.

Only the forequarters of a kosher animal are allowed for human consumption. For beef, this would include the area from the tenth rib forward. The hindquarters of the animal contain the sciatic nerve and fats, which are not allowed for consumption. This means that a wide range of beef cuts, such as sirloin and T-bone steaks, are not available as kosher products. Many large food stores stock a range of pre-wrapped kosher beef and frozen kosher beef products.
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Trevelyan

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Some speculate there were reasons for the laws of kosher... most of the obvious ones are health-related, some are related to the environment of the Israelites back then. So it would be incorrect to say that they are simply arbitrary requirements, or illogical.

Kind of the same thing with why Israelites weren't allowed to touch dead bodies, had to wash their hands for certain things, etc... this was all before germs and diseases were understood. Honestly one of my favorite testaments to the Torah, and its reliability of actually being what it claims... that is, God's Word.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Part of laws of Kashrus. There are areas of the cow which cannot be eaten. You will not get a logical answer, it's a matter of faith.

The areas that have to be removed from the hindquarters are extensive, and it doesn't make sense to try to get rid of all of them, it's costs to much, so they just sell it off.

<--Has always eaten kosher.


So whats the basis for kosher/hashrut? I tend to eat it on corporate events, just because it's usually better food than the rest... but is there any reason for actually doing it?

I know muslims don't eat pigs because they used to spread diseases (or soemthing to that extent), so do jews have similar rationality?
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Some speculate there were reasons for the laws of kosher... most of the obvious ones are health-related, some are related to the environment of the Israelites back then. So it would be incorrect to say that they are simply arbitrary requirements, or illogical.

Kind of the same thing with why Israelites weren't allowed to touch dead bodies, had to wash their hands for certain things, etc... this was all before germs and diseases were understood. Honestly one of my favorite testaments to the Torah, and its reliability of actually being what it claims... that is, God's Word.

I was in a rabbinical seminary for years and I've been an Orthodox Jew all my life. Trust me, it's illogical. :) That there may be things that make sense to us about it does not mean that that is the reason for the law. Now I gotta run for Shabbat! :D
 

AgentJean

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Because, thems the rules. :confused:

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Kosher: Kosher beef is processed using specific guidelines of Jewish law and with the supervision of special rabbis. Kosher beef must also be cooked and consumed using specific guidelines. The strict rules of slaughtering have necessitated the creation of regional centers where the slaughtering is performed. The meat is then shipped to local butchers.

Only the forequarters of a kosher animal are allowed for human consumption. For beef, this would include the area from the tenth rib forward. The hindquarters of the animal contain the sciatic nerve and fats, which are not allowed for consumption. This means that a wide range of beef cuts, such as sirloin and T-bone steaks, are not available as kosher products. Many large food stores stock a range of pre-wrapped kosher beef and frozen kosher beef products.
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Go to hell or give up Sirloin and T-bone steaks..................





Someone pass me some A1 :D
 

AgentJean

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Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Originally posted by: AgentJean
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
The Muslim Religion have the same thing going on in the subject of foods, known as Halal

Just FYI :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

Thanks, that gives me some ideas on how to to bless my anti-Islamist gear.


oh relax lol, just have a nice juicy burger as a side.

With extra bacon. :D and a beer.
 

Powermoloch

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Originally posted by: AgentJean
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Originally posted by: AgentJean
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
The Muslim Religion have the same thing going on in the subject of foods, known as Halal

Just FYI :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

Thanks, that gives me some ideas on how to to bless my anti-Islamist gear.


oh relax lol, just have a nice juicy burger as a side.

With extra bacon. :D and a beer.

:thumbsup: