How can we ever hit the "reset" button on Congress?

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Lifer
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Seriously, how can we ethically and legally hit the "reset" button on this comical, dysfunctional, unpatriotic, lying, arrogant, lobby-owned group of so-called legislators?

Congress has the lowest approval rating of all with only about 1 in 4 Americans giving it a favorable rating. (I am actually surprised it is that high.)

(Americans Split on Obama's first year.)

So how do we do it? How do we get term limits on these people?
 

chucky2

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The above two are about the only two answers, short of us being overtaken by another nation(s), that have any real chance of getting rid of the POSs in Congress.

Unfortunately, it needs to get a lot worse before it'll start getting lots better.... :(

Chuck
 

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Running of the Congress. Each year there is a poll and those in congress in the bottom half of approval ratings are put into a maze with bulls and lions. They need to make their way to the exits before coming across a beast.
 
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chucky2

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Running of the Congress. Each year there is a poll and those in congress in the bottom half of approval ratings are put into a maze with bulls and lions. They need to make their way to the exists before coming across a beast.

This is actually brilliant!!! Can we make it like 75% instead though? 50% I don't think is going to be high enough to be effective deterrent.

Chuck
 

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How about this- Abolish the senate. It's anti-democratic and should have never been created.

My pharmaceutical stocks would skyrocket... imagine 100 less senators to have to buy off... think of all the money drug companies will save.
 

cubeless

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look at the full polling... everybody thinks their rep is great but that it's all the rest of 'em who suck... the downward spiral is just getting started...
 

JS80

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Texas secession would actually be a good start and most practical and high chance of success assuming other states follow.
 

fskimospy

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Texas secession would actually be a good start and most practical and high chance of success assuming other states follow.

How'd that work out for Texas last time they seceded? I doubt the state wants a second ass beating.

Any removal of people from Congress would quickly result in very similar people being right back in those positions. I imagine most people in this thread have a problem with the way the legislative process works. (hence the famous quote of 'those who like sausage and law should never see either being made'.) As greater access to information gives the average American a better idea of this process, they will probably like it even less.
 

CitizenKain

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How'd that work out for Texas last time they seceded? I doubt the state wants a second ass beating.

Any removal of people from Congress would quickly result in very similar people being right back in those positions. I imagine most people in this thread have a problem with the way the legislative process works. (hence the famous quote of 'those who like sausage and law should never see either being made'.) As greater access to information gives the average American a better idea of this process, they will probably like it even less.

No no, Texas is so special, somehow it will turn out different this time. Because now its full of Texans!

However, the good side to Texas leaving would be a dramatic decrease in the number of Texans.
 

Infohawk

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How'd that work out for Texas last time they seceded? I doubt the state wants a second ass beating.
Isn't it funny how a lot of the same people who worship the US flag also have ancestors that fought against it and who still talk about succession?

But back on topic: Constitutional reform. I don't think the founding fathers expected that we make so few changes to government in that time. We could use a constitutional convention. I think one problem is that people pander to their districts. We need proportional representation. Representatives of the US should represent the entire USA, not just some random district that wants a bridge built with federal money.
 

JS80

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Isn't it funny how a lot of the same people who worship the US flag also have ancestors that fought against it and who still talk about succession?

But back on topic: Constitutional reform. I don't think the founding fathers expected that we make so few changes to government in that time. We could use a constitutional convention. I think one problem is that people pander to their districts. We need proportional representation. Representatives of the US should represent the entire USA, not just some random district that wants a bridge built with federal money.

Your post just further proves the only way to "reset" Congress and not have something that represents the same shit (in your case a people pandered constitutional convention) is a military coup or state secession. Any democracy based reset results in the same old bullshit.
 

Ozoned

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Seriously, how can we ethically and legally hit the "reset" button on this comical, dysfunctional, unpatriotic, lying, arrogant, lobby-owned group of so-called legislators?

Congress has the lowest approval rating of all with only about 1 in 4 Americans giving it a favorable rating. (I am actually surprised it is that high.)

(Americans Split on Obama's first year.)

So how do we do it? How do we get term limits on these people?

A constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget.
 

Craig234

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Seriously, how can we ethically and legally hit the "reset" button on this comical, dysfunctional, unpatriotic, lying, arrogant, lobby-owned group of so-called legislators?

Congress has the lowest approval rating of all with only about 1 in 4 Americans giving it a favorable rating. (I am actually surprised it is that high.)

(Americans Split on Obama's first year.)

So how do we do it? How do we get term limits on these people?

Anyone who supported the Bush administation is a poor judge of fixing the system. For a start, term limits are a terrible idea. The solution is to reduce the role of concentrated wealth ni the system. Not easy.
 

JS80

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Education.
Like did you know hedge funds managers, some making 2 billion a year, only pay 15% tax? I paid more than that with my first job out of college.

Start here:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01082010/watch.html

The number of HF managers making that kind of dough is less than the number of fingers in one hand.

Also, they are treated the same as everyone else. HF managers pay income tax rates for wage income, and they pay capital gains rates for capital gains, just like the rest of us.
 
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Sniper rifles?

AS50 or .408?

The AS50 is semi and fairly accurate but with the .408 you can hit a target 3000 meters away.

Of course, they won't be able to run very fast so a 7.62 machine gun would probably be a better solution, doesn't really need to be cooled down until they are all dead either.

British AS50 is nice though, i never thought i'd shoot a rifle of that caliber with less recoil than a regular 30-06 sniper.

Well done UK!
 

Craig234

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The number of HF managers making that kind of dough is less than the number of fingers in one hand.

Also, they are treated the same as everyone else. HF managers pay income tax rates for income tax, and they pay capital gains rates for capital gains, just like the rest of us.

What an idiot.

So let's make the cap gains rate 90%, and then you can say they are treated the same as everyone] else.
 

fskimospy

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Your post just further proves the only way to "reset" Congress and not have something that represents the same shit (in your case a people pandered constitutional convention) is a military coup or state secession. Any democracy based reset results in the same old bullshit.

Yeah, military coups have a really good record when it comes to fixing up democratic institutions.

Almost as bad as Texas' 'secession from the US' record. :)