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How can the RIAA legally go after a 12 year kid?

JEDI

Lifer
i thought all civil judgements against a minor was null and void because they are not of legal age?
 
RIAA = Gestapo. They can do anything they feel like doing. 😀


Edit: Unless it involves Stanford or someone with the resources to point out their mistakes.
 
With civil suits, if someone wants to "go after" a minor they end up "going after" the parents. See, some silly law person out there had this idea that parents should be responsible for their kids.
 
Originally posted by: MogulMonster
RIAA = Gestapo. They can do anything they feel like doing. 😀


Edit: Unless it involves Stanford or someone with the resources to point out their mistakes.

Why the fvck are you grinning at that?
 
AmerDoux:
> Q: Why can the RIAA serve subpoena's that violate Due Process?

Um... Due Process is two parts: notice and meaningful opportunity to be heard. The ppl the RIAA is going after are getting notice. The 12 year old wasn't hauled into court with no idea that she was being sued...
 
Originally posted by: JEDI
i thought all civil judgements against a minor was null and void because they are not of legal age?
I wish I had known this before I turned 18. I would have stolen non-stop.

 
Originally posted by: hjo3
AmerDoux:
> Q: Why can the RIAA serve subpoena's that violate Due Process?

Um... Due Process is two parts: notice and meaningful opportunity to be heard. The ppl the RIAA is going after are getting notice. The 12 year old wasn't hauled into court with no idea that she was being sued...

This is correct there is no due process with a subpoena. A subpoena is mearly a notice to appear OR a notice that you are being charged. It is actually the first step in due process.
 
Originally posted by: AmerDoux
Q: Why can the RIAA serve subpoena's that violate Due Process?

A: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



Q: Why don't you know what you're talking about?

A: ???????????????????????????
 
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: PoPPeR being 12 doesn't protect you from the law...
actually in most cases it does sadly

This will be one of the 260 cases that will be dropped due to illegally gathering information, "viruses" were the cause of the p2p software, etc.
 
Originally posted by: hjo3
AmerDoux:
> Q: Why can the RIAA serve subpoena's that violate Due Process?

Um... Due Process is two parts: notice and meaningful opportunity to be heard. The ppl the RIAA is going after are getting notice. The 12 year old wasn't hauled into court with no idea that she was being sued...

USA Today, Sept 2nd

"I got calls from two Comcast subscribers who were never informed. They found their screen names listed on a Web site and wanted to know what they should do."

 
I'm tired of all this talk about this 12 year old girl. Big whoop. She did the crime, now do the time. The fact that RIAA is a bunch of asshats has nothing to do with it. I can't believe there are actually webpages collecting money for her. sheesh
 
Originally posted by: AmerDoux
Originally posted by: hjo3
AmerDoux:
> Q: Why can the RIAA serve subpoena's that violate Due Process?

Um... Due Process is two parts: notice and meaningful opportunity to be heard. The ppl the RIAA is going after are getting notice. The 12 year old wasn't hauled into court with no idea that she was being sued...

USA Today, Sept 2nd

"I got calls from two Comcast subscribers who were never informed. They found their screen names listed on a Web site and wanted to know what they should do."

Oh please. There a million reasons they "say" they were never informed. Subpoenas were sent to them if they were on the list; I may hate the RIAA but they didn't do anything wrong in sending the subpoenas, at least as far as Due Process is concerned.
 
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: DougK62
I'm tired of all this talk about this 12 year old girl. Big whoop. She did the crime, now do the time. The fact that RIAA is a bunch of asshats has nothing to do with it. I can't believe there are actually webpages collecting money for her. sheesh
someone is already paying for her

it's about time, RIAA = bad press. p2p group = good press 😀

their poll shows 52% supportive of their policies, i wonder which 52% they had voting under duress. lol.
 
Originally posted by: Hubris
Originally posted by: AmerDoux
Originally posted by: hjo3
AmerDoux:
> Q: Why can the RIAA serve subpoena's that violate Due Process?

Um... Due Process is two parts: notice and meaningful opportunity to be heard. The ppl the RIAA is going after are getting notice. The 12 year old wasn't hauled into court with no idea that she was being sued...

USA Today, Sept 2nd

"I got calls from two Comcast subscribers who were never informed. They found their screen names listed on a Web site and wanted to know what they should do."

Oh please. There a million reasons they "say" they were never informed. Subpoenas were sent to them if they were on the list; I may hate the RIAA but they didn't do anything wrong in sending the subpoenas, at least as far as Due Process is concerned.

When you're served with a subpoena (never had the pleasure - knock on wood) don't they have to physically serve you with it and perhaps make you sign for it to show that you recieved it. If that's so wouldn't it be fairly obvious that these people were lying about not being served if that were the case?
 
They go after the parents, who are (or should be) responsible to keep track of what the kids are doing on the internet. Ignorance is not an excuse (bad analogy, but you wouldn't drive a car without knowing how to use the brake, so why should a file transfer program be any different?).

The RIAA is doing plenty of things that are not right, and for that reason I (and others) are boycotting them. Still, that is not an excuse to infringe.
 
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