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How can I add LAN ports to my network?

dredd2929

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I currently have a cable modem plugged into a D-Link DGL-4300 IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.11b/g Wireless Gaming Router. I has a four-port gigabit switch built in. I would to have more wired gigabit ports. How do I do this? Is is just a matter a buying a switch and plugging it into one of LAN ports of the router?
 
Yes, you could add a DGS-1005D or DGS-1008D seamlessly. They'd also stack, but these get a bit hot and more space would make better sense.
 
Originally posted by: blemoine
Yes, you could add a DGS-1005D or DGS-1008D seamlessly. They'd also stack

do you mean lay on top of one another. i seriously doubt that Dlink makes any stackable switches.

Yeah, I think he missed the true meaning of "stackable" switches 🙂
 
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: blemoine
Yes, you could add a DGS-1005D or DGS-1008D seamlessly. They'd also stack

do you mean lay on top of one another. i seriously doubt that Dlink makes any stackable switches.

Yeah, I think he missed the true meaning of "stackable" switches 🙂
Correct me if I'm wrong, do you mean stackabe like group the switches together with a special com. cable?
 
Well, actually, what are you planning on connecting?

Ok, let me re-phrase this, what are you trying to do, and how does your network connect to other networks? I assume you currently have a DSL/CableModem connection with an ethernet connection that goes into your wireless gaming router.

What you can do is the following:

Get a large gigabit switch which will support ALL your gigabit devices. Run a crossover to a port on the gaming router's gigabit switch. Connect all your gigabit devices to the new switch. Now all your systems will have pretty much full bandwitch gigabit connections between them. If you keep some connected into your gaming router and some on the new switch you will then have a SHARED gigabit feed between the two groups (in other words any computer on the gaming router trying to connect to a system on the other switch will share the 1 gigabit speed connection with all other computers trying to talk between the two switches as well as all general internet activity coming from any system on the new switch). By placing all the computers on the new switch, everyone can use the switch's backplane bus bandwidth to communicate with each other, no sharing of a single line. All internet access from the systems will share that single gigabit feed to your router, BUT your router connects to something that is probably at most a 8mbps line (in other words, since the router itself can't send more then 8mbps out, it won't make a difference at all if you have a line that can support 1gbps connected to the one side of the router since that is more then 100x faster then what the router itself can send through it).
 
Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Well, actually, what are you planning on connecting?

Ok, let me re-phrase this, what are you trying to do, and how does your network connect to other networks? I assume you currently have a DSL/CableModem connection with an ethernet connection that goes into your wireless gaming router.

What you can do is the following:

Get a large gigabit switch which will support ALL your gigabit devices. Run a crossover to a port on the gaming router's gigabit switch. Connect all your gigabit devices to the new switch. Now all your systems will have pretty much full bandwitch gigabit connections between them. If you keep some connected into your gaming router and some on the new switch you will then have a SHARED gigabit feed between the two groups (in other words any computer on the gaming router trying to connect to a system on the other switch will share the 1 gigabit speed connection with all other computers trying to talk between the two switches as well as all general internet activity coming from any system on the new switch). By placing all the computers on the new switch, everyone can use the switch's backplane bus bandwidth to communicate with each other, no sharing of a single line. All internet access from the systems will share that single gigabit feed to your router, BUT your router connects to something that is probably at most a 8mbps line (in other words, since the router itself can't send more then 8mbps out, it won't make a difference at all if you have a line that can support 1gbps connected to the one side of the router since that is more then 100x faster then what the router itself can send through it).

blah blah blitty blah blah.
99.9% of home users, especially those running wireless as in this case hardly will care about gigabit speeds. Not to mention a stndard PCI bus can't even handle it. I highly doubt he is going to be overly concered with that.

Just get a switch $15 from newegg (Zonet ZFS3008 will do fine) plug it in with a standard cable and be on your way.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
that is not a stackable switch

Why stop there? Go ahead and define stackable for us and tell us why that switch isn't it. I won't even ask you to defend why it's relevant to the OP.
 
criiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipes he doesnt need a TECHNICALLY stackable or a PHYSICALLY stackable switch.
he needs some <$20 plug-and-go switch

+e-penis!

 
Originally posted by: Madwand1
Originally posted by: spidey07
that is not a stackable switch

Why stop there? Go ahead and define stackable for us and tell us why that switch isn't it. I won't even ask you to defend why it's relevant to the OP.

Sorry. I just get a little miffed at the marketing mumbo-jumbo that is thrown around by the manufacturers.
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
criiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipes he doesnt need a TECHNICALLY stackable or a PHYSICALLY stackable switch.
he needs some <$20 plug-and-go switch

+e-penis!

lol i just read the whole thread and couldn't agree more!
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
criiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipes he doesnt need a TECHNICALLY stackable or a PHYSICALLY stackable switch.
he needs some <$20 plug-and-go switch

I'll bite. Yes, you could say that we don't need this stuff, and if you looked at gramps for example, he'd nod and agree with you.

As counterpoint, I actually use a DGL-4300 with a DGS-1008D, I have them physically stacked for now despite the heat issue because it's convenient, and I do enjoy and utilize to a large degree the gigabit bandwidth that it affords me. You don't need much -- even multi-computer backups with typical single modern drives can benefit from the > fast ethernet bandwidth. I've done my own benchmarks, so I know what performance I get, and don't rely on the stickers/marketing for that.

To make peace, I agree that perhaps the 4th and 5th, etc., home computers could be on regular ethernet without suffering any visible performance lags. In my own case, I actually have 4 computers that I want gigabit for, and more computers in addition, and I'd feel bad about slowing down my wife's shared file access by not putting it in tier one so to speak, so I paid the $70-80 for the gigabit switch in addition, and am happy with it.
 
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
yup! just make sure the switch is a gigabit switch or you'll lose major speed.

ugh.... he wont care about gigabit
did you see the rest of his network?
 
Well I must admit didn't realize my question would imspire such passionate replies.

I liked the suggestion by Fallen Kell. I was planning on having the switch in a room separate from the router though, so I'm afraid it would be too much of a pain to re-route all my network cables. One day when I have my own house, it will have RJ-45 outlets in every room. 🙂

Homerboy: you are correct that a 1Gb/s connection is bottlenecked by standard PCI. However, a 100Mb/s connection is not. Therefore, I would rather be bottlenecked by the PCI bus than by my LAN connection. Does this make sense?

Thanks all for your input!
 
Whichever switch you get, it might help to know that a crossover cable probably won't be needed -- it's certainly not needed between my D-Link router and switch.
 
Originally posted by: Madwand1
Whichever switch you get, it might help to know that a crossover cable probably won't be needed -- it's certainly not needed between my D-Link router and switch.

Good to know.

Thanks!
 
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