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How can anyone like cleartype? It's blurry and strains my eyes!

Shawn

Lifer
I never understood how anyone liked cleartype. People told me it only looks good on LCDs. So I thought ok and forgot about it. Well I got a Dell 1800FP LCD and tried it again and it still looked blurry to me. People here claimed it was my d-sub connection (even though my Geforce 2 GTS put out a crystal clear picture!). Well I just bought a Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB DDR with DVI and I decided what the heck maybe it'll look better now. Nope! I even used M$'s webpage to adjust the text. They all look blurry to me. Am I in the minority here?
 
My Samsung 191T looks awesome with cleartype

Is there anyway to get the cleartype font running Win2K?

Ausm
 
Originally posted by: ausm
My Samsung 191T looks awesome with cleartype

Is there anyway to get the cleartype font running Win2K?

Ausm
I think this was discussed in the software forum, and cleartype is only a XP thing.
 
Originally posted by: iloveme2
I never understood how anyone liked cleartype. People told me it only looks good on LCDs. So I thought ok and forgot about it. Well I got a Dell 1800FP LCD and tried it again and it still looked blurry to me. People here claimed it was my d-sub connection (even though my Geforce 2 GTS put out a crystal clear picture!). Well I just bought a Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB DDR with DVI and I decided what the heck maybe it'll look better now. Nope! I even used M$'s webpage to adjust the text. They all look blurry to me. Am I in the minority here?

Did you tweak it in RGB mode or BGR mode? LCD panels use two different display modes, depending on the way the panel is made. Chances are, if it looks really blurry with cleartype on, you have it set to RGB when your LCD uses BGR, or vice versa.

JW
 
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
anyone who says his GeForce 2 put out a crystal clear picture automatically loses all credibility.

eh, my geforce was perfect. much better picture than my old radeon. even better than my voodoo 3. only thing that beat my geforce was my old matrox millennium.
 
Originally posted by: JW310
Originally posted by: iloveme2
I never understood how anyone liked cleartype. People told me it only looks good on LCDs. So I thought ok and forgot about it. Well I got a Dell 1800FP LCD and tried it again and it still looked blurry to me. People here claimed it was my d-sub connection (even though my Geforce 2 GTS put out a crystal clear picture!). Well I just bought a Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB DDR with DVI and I decided what the heck maybe it'll look better now. Nope! I even used M$'s webpage to adjust the text. They all look blurry to me. Am I in the minority here?

Did you tweak it in RGB mode or BGR mode? LCD panels use two different display modes, depending on the way the panel is made. Chances are, if it looks really blurry with cleartype on, you have it set to RGB when your LCD uses BGR, or vice versa.

JW

I think the 1800FP uses BGR. It uses the less common one.
 
Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: JW310
Originally posted by: iloveme2
I never understood how anyone liked cleartype. People told me it only looks good on LCDs. So I thought ok and forgot about it. Well I got a Dell 1800FP LCD and tried it again and it still looked blurry to me. People here claimed it was my d-sub connection (even though my Geforce 2 GTS put out a crystal clear picture!). Well I just bought a Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB DDR with DVI and I decided what the heck maybe it'll look better now. Nope! I even used M$'s webpage to adjust the text. They all look blurry to me. Am I in the minority here?

Did you tweak it in RGB mode or BGR mode? LCD panels use two different display modes, depending on the way the panel is made. Chances are, if it looks really blurry with cleartype on, you have it set to RGB when your LCD uses BGR, or vice versa.

JW

I think the 1800FP uses BGR. It uses the less common one.

can anyone verify this?
 
Originally posted by: iloveme2
Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: JW310
Originally posted by: iloveme2
I never understood how anyone liked cleartype. People told me it only looks good on LCDs. So I thought ok and forgot about it. Well I got a Dell 1800FP LCD and tried it again and it still looked blurry to me. People here claimed it was my d-sub connection (even though my Geforce 2 GTS put out a crystal clear picture!). Well I just bought a Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB DDR with DVI and I decided what the heck maybe it'll look better now. Nope! I even used M$'s webpage to adjust the text. They all look blurry to me. Am I in the minority here?

Did you tweak it in RGB mode or BGR mode? LCD panels use two different display modes, depending on the way the panel is made. Chances are, if it looks really blurry with cleartype on, you have it set to RGB when your LCD uses BGR, or vice versa.

JW

I think the 1800FP uses BGR. It uses the less common one.

It works better in BGR mode, but it's not perfect. If you have an LCD, switch cleartype to bgr mode. Go to the address bar and just hold down the L key for a couple seconds "lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll" On an 1800FP in BGR mode with cleartype on, all the pixels between the l's appear yellow. If it's left in RGB mode, the coloring is correct but all the text is too blurry to use.

Solution? Don't use Cleartype on an 1800FP.

can anyone verify this?

 
My 1800FP is CRYSTAL SHARP without Cleartype...(I checked all of them out, they're not nearly as sharp as non-Cleartype); This is using the DVI output from my GF3 Ti200
 
I like cleartype on my laptop. Normal font smoothing is just too weird for me.

Guess it's just about preference.
 
It's preference I guess. I'm using CRT, Samsung Syncmaster 955DF, and I still use cleartype. It's slightly less clear, I suppose, but I think it looks much better antialiased than with the razor sharp jagged edges.
 
Originally posted by: Savarak
My 1800FP is CRYSTAL SHARP without Cleartype...(I checked all of them out, they're not nearly as sharp as non-Cleartype); This is using the DVI output from my GF3 Ti200

My 1800FP is the same way. ClearType makes the text look blurry, without it the text is awesome.
 
Cleartype on every LCD I've ever seen or owned has rocked. Anytime I go to someone's house with an LCD is blown away when I show it to them. The difference is night and day. Either your monitor is fvcked, your videocard is fvcked, or your eyesight is fvcked. Pick one.
 
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