How can AMD sit still and watch???

[GTaudiophile]

I mean, today nVidia rounds out its DX10 lineup, and it appears that AMD products aren't stacking up so well...stands to reason as they are a generation behind.

We know that AMD has its DX10 lineup waiting in the wings, so why are they doing nothing? It doesn't make much sense. Release your ****** products already!

Are they waiting to see prices as to better position their products?

 

[SexyK]

Agreed. In the last thread some people were stating that by waiting to launch a full lineup, AMD would have a two to three month head-start over nVidia in the DX10 midrange because nVidia would wait for AMD's midrange launch then respond two to three months later (because it takes two to three months to assemble and distribute cards) with their own DX10 midrange. Looks like that's another excuse for AMD's failure to launch that's gone flying out the window. Unlike AMD, nVidia actually LAUNCHES cards when they are ready and sitting in a warehouse. What an amazing concept. More proof that AMD's excuses are falling flat.

 

[tvdang7]

well first off. the new cards are about on par with x1650xt and x1950pro so im not too worried. on the high end im still not too worried since i can never afford that.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I mean, today nVidia rounds out its DX10 lineup, and it appears that AMD products aren't stacking up so well...stands to reason as they are a generation behind.

We know that AMD has its DX10 lineup waiting in the wings, so why are they doing nothing? It doesn't make much sense. Release your ****** products already!

Are they waiting to see prices as to better position their products?

Yeah I am sure everyone over at ATi is just sitting around not doing anything at all.

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I mean, today nVidia rounds out its DX10 lineup, and it appears that AMD products aren't stacking up so well...stands to reason as they are a generation behind.

We know that AMD has its DX10 lineup waiting in the wings, so why are they doing nothing? It doesn't make much sense. Release your ****** products already!

Are they waiting to see prices as to better position their products?

Yeah I am sure everyone over at ATi is just sitting around not doing anything at all.

They have been saying for over a month that everything is perfect and they are ready to launch, so what do you think they are doing? Any ideas? Obviously they weren't really ready to launch, otherwise they would have.

 

[BassBomb]

They were sortof a generation behind when nVidia launched 6800 series, then a few months later launched the midrange, sure ATi had their ghost "X700XT"

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: SexyK

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I mean, today nVidia rounds out its DX10 lineup, and it appears that AMD products aren't stacking up so well...stands to reason as they are a generation behind.

We know that AMD has its DX10 lineup waiting in the wings, so why are they doing nothing? It doesn't make much sense. Release your ****** products already!

Are they waiting to see prices as to better position their products?

Yeah I am sure everyone over at ATi is just sitting around not doing anything at all.

They have been saying for over a month that everything is perfect and they are ready to launch, so what do you think they are doing? Any ideas? Obviously they weren't really ready to launch, otherwise they would have.

ammm... Cards are shipping to store. They are giving enough time to editors to do up reviews and make sure the cards everywhere before they vanish the NDA.

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: SexyK

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I mean, today nVidia rounds out its DX10 lineup, and it appears that AMD products aren't stacking up so well...stands to reason as they are a generation behind.

We know that AMD has its DX10 lineup waiting in the wings, so why are they doing nothing? It doesn't make much sense. Release your ****** products already!

Are they waiting to see prices as to better position their products?

Yeah I am sure everyone over at ATi is just sitting around not doing anything at all.

They have been saying for over a month that everything is perfect and they are ready to launch, so what do you think they are doing? Any ideas? Obviously they weren't really ready to launch, otherwise they would have.

ammm... Cards are shipping to store. They are giving enough time to editors to do up reviews and make sure the cards everywhere before they vanish the NDA.

Hmm, so AMD made hotel reservations and travel arrangements for a launch event over a month ago, then canceled the entire event and moved the release date to "Q2" because they forgot to ship the cards to store? Riiiiight. Even AMD has come up with a more creative excuse than that - they claim that they are simply holding it back so they can launch it at the same time as mid-range cards. Which makes no sense either.

 

[vadp]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
We know that AMD has its DX10 lineup waiting in the wings, so why are they doing nothing? It doesn't make much sense. Release your ****** products already!

AMD (ATI) are no fools.
There are specific reasons for why they wait.
We might be for a big surprise (price/performance wise)

 

[AnotherGuy]

U guys.... well me too, are so impatient... what if they release their cards in 3 days or tomorrow...? damnit all we need to do is wait for 6 more days 4/22 and we will know for sure....
I just dont see why some people worry so much about AMD's bussines.... if they decide to loose bussiness fine thats their problem... not urs

 

[yacoub]

NVidia just handed the mid-range initiative to ATi. Now we'll see if ATi is competent enough to take advantage of that and come out with a superior mid-range product. If they can't even after being given this gift of an opportunity, they're hopeless.

 

[AmdInside]

ATI is working on DX11 cards so they figured, why have two separate launches when they can release DX10 cards and DX11 cards simultaneously so expect an R600 launch sometime in 2009.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: yacoub
NVidia just handed the mid-range initiative to ATi. Now we'll see if ATi is competent enough to take advantage of that and come out with a superior mid-range product. If they can't even after being given this gift of an opportunity, they're hopeless.

lol.. it's not like ati is going to re-engineer their midrange lineup based on nvidia's products.

they have what they have, regardless of what nvidia does.

 

[yacoub]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: yacoub
NVidia just handed the mid-range initiative to ATi. Now we'll see if ATi is competent enough to take advantage of that and come out with a superior mid-range product. If they can't even after being given this gift of an opportunity, they're hopeless.

lol.. it's not like ati is going to re-engineer their midrange lineup based on nvidia's products.

they have what they have, regardless of what nvidia does.

I never insinuated anything like re-engineering. They still have yet to announce marketing segmentation and pricing so those items can always be changed.

 

[Wreckage]

I imagine AMD hates this more than we do. While we are tapping our fingers waiting for a card to show up, I bet they have employees working a lot of overtime and weekends. I can not imagine that AMD chose to wait on purpose. However, I don't work their but I can imagine it's not a fun time right now.

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
I imagine AMD hates this more than we do. While we are tapping our fingers waiting for a card to show up, I bet they have employees working a lot of overtime and weekends. I can not imagine that AMD chose to wait on purpose. However, I don't work their but I can imagine it's not a fun time right now.

About time someone mention this.

 

[jdoggg12]

These ought to come with YAR600T labels.... I love couch CEOs who know whats best for a company from their couch while fap fap fap and talk on AT.

It's coming, it may suck, it may not.... just wait and see, i promise you the top execs at DAMMIT are not listening to forums whine that your next purchase isnt ready yet.

 

[ElFenix]

amd said they're doing this because the people who buy cards say they would rather have a full line launch than piecemeal release.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
amd said they're doing this because the people who buy cards say they would rather have a full line launch than piecemeal release.

Well, there area a lot of people by 8xxx series cards who feel differently.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: ElFenix
amd said they're doing this because the people who buy cards say they would rather have a full line launch than piecemeal release.

Well, there area a lot of people by 8xxx series cards who feel differently.

and none of those people are interested in offering a full line of cards to their customers.

 

[Extelleron]

With the launch of the 8600 series with subpar performance, ATI has the chance to rebound. The bottom line is, the only parts that really matter are the midrange. We all love the high end and personally that's what I'm interested in, but the fact is the majority of people want a MID-RANGE card, not a high-end $400-600 card. Over the last months, a lot of people on this forum have been forecasting doom and gloom for AMD just because nVidia got their 8800 out first... they forget that the R600XTX and 8800GTX don't matter in the grand scheme of things. The real important war between AMD and nVidia only started today when nVidia launched the 8600. If ATI can launch in a week or two, and provide a good mid-range solution, they will be in a great position. nVidia has REALLY let the ball down with the mid-range 8xxx series and also with its Vista AND XP drivers for the 8800 series, and ATI needs to take advantage of this opportunity.

 

[Pugnate]

Originally posted by: SexyK
Agreed. In the last thread some people were stating that by waiting to launch a full lineup, AMD would have a two to three month head-start over nVidia in the DX10 midrange

hahaha that's ridiculous. That's like saying the PS3 had a year long headstart over the Xbox 360.

 

[dreddfunk]

SexyK - you may be recalling our discussion but I think you've misinterpreted what I was saying. I certainly never meant to imply that waiting granted AMD a technological 'head start' over nVidia. That's patently absurd. Timing product releases to the market forces that drive their sales, however, is far different suggestion. Let's not confuse technological leadership with product launch decisions.

 

[D22]

This mid-range sucks so bad the only thing I would consider is an 8600GT if it falls to around $110-120, then OC it might be a good value, other than that all they could do to make things interesting is drop price further on GTS320

 

[Munky]

Maybe AMD right now is ROFL laughing because their midrange card will blow away Nv's midrange cards? I think Nv rushed with the 8600 launch before they had wide availability because they could not compete well once AMD launched their midrange cards.