How can a Credit Union be legally racist?

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

It is discriminatory nonetheless. My point is that is is illegal to discriminate based on race, or religion, and this credit union is violating the religion part, so what's to keep another from violating the race part. I guess you missed the point.

The standard that you posted are contradictory from what you just said.

WHO CAN JOIN

Catholics living in the Dioceses of Saginaw which includes Arenac,
Bay, Clare, Gladwin, Gratiot, Huron, Isabella, Midland, Saginaw,
Sanilac and Tuscola counties.

Employees of the Saginaw Dioces (or Catholic Parishes)

Students and Employees of Catholic Schools in the Saginaw Diocese.

Relatives of a Catholic Federal Member regardless of where they
live, what their religion is or thier relationship to the member, by
blood or marriage.

The people that are eligible are either members of Catholic churches, employees of the catholic churches, student or employees of catholic schools, and relatives of a Catholic Federal Member regardless of their religion

Where is the racism? Where is the illegal discrimination? They allow non-Catholic family members to join. The only requirement is that you be associated with the Catholic church in that area through membership, employment, or academics.

Read it again. "Catholics Only" The only other way to be a member and not be Catholic, is to be a relative of a MEMBER. ONLY then can you be non-Catholic!!!

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

It is discriminatory nonetheless. My point is that is is illegal to discriminate based on race, or religion, and this credit union is violating the religion part, so what's to keep another from violating the race part. I guess you missed the point.

The standard that you posted are contradictory from what you just said.

WHO CAN JOIN

Catholics living in the Dioceses of Saginaw which includes Arenac,
Bay, Clare, Gladwin, Gratiot, Huron, Isabella, Midland, Saginaw,
Sanilac and Tuscola counties.

Employees of the Saginaw Dioces (or Catholic Parishes)

Students and Employees of Catholic Schools in the Saginaw Diocese.

Relatives of a Catholic Federal Member regardless of where they
live, what their religion is or thier relationship to the member, by
blood or marriage.

The people that are eligible are either members of Catholic churches, employees of the catholic churches, student or employees of catholic schools, and relatives of a Catholic Federal Member regardless of their religion

Where is the racism? Where is the illegal discrimination? They allow non-Catholic family members to join. The only requirement is that you be associated with the Catholic church in that area through membership, employment, or academics.

Read it again. "Catholics Only" The only other way to be a member and not be Catholic, is to be a relative of a MEMBER. ONLY then can you be non-Catholic!!!

I did read that and I re-wrote that in the second to last paragraph. This practice is no different than those people who belong to Teacher Credit Unions and the like. The only way you can be a member of a Teacher Credit Union is to either be a teacher or a relative of a teacher. That is the way credit unions work.

 

[Viper GTS]

This has got to be the stupidest thread of the week.

Racist? Illegal?

Viper GTS

 

[Ynog]

Look up the definition of race.

Merriam-Webster

Type in race in the dictionary search.
When it returns click on race3.

Note what it says under 2B.
b : a class or kind of people unified by community of interests, habits, or characteristics <the English race>

I'd say a religion is a community of interests.

So the persecution of someone based on their religion would be a form a racism.
Because the media doesn't call it racism, and its not most commonly associated with it,
doesn't not make it so.

 

[Amused]

Credit Unions are "non-profit." Therefore they are NOT bound by the same non-discrimination laws as for-profit companies.

Could Bank of America have this policy? No. Can a non-profit organization such as a credit union? Yes.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Ynog
Look up the definition of race.

Merriam-Webster

Type in race in the dictionary search.
When it returns click on race3.

Note what it says under 2B.
b : a class or kind of people unified by community of interests, habits, or characteristics <the English race>

I'd say a religion is a community of interests.

So the persecution of someone based on their religion would be a form a racism.
Because the media doesn't call it racism, and its not most commonly associated with it,
doesn't not make it so.

Under that definition Teacher Credit Unions are racists, Medical Credit Unions are racists, Plumber Unions are racists, and quilting circles are racists because they exclude anybody outside of those interests.

 

[psianime]

It's a shame that people still do this =(

-psianime

 

[Oakenfold]

The credit union I work for used to be open to
A. Active duty
B. Gov't Employee's
C. Approved Clubs/organizations.

This was under a federal charter.

They have since moved to a state charter which allows them to
accept

Anyone that works or lives in the surrounding North Florida counties.

This credit union is not racist by any means, nor are they predjudiced by allowing only certain people within their instituition.
You might want to understand a credit union's operations before making such statements.




It looks like the one you've linked to is a Federal Charter, this is more restrictive on membership terms for who/what can join the credit union, how all that works I don't really know since I don't work for the NCUA or have a legal knowledge of what FEDERAL vs. State charters can do.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: psianime
It's a shame that people still do this =(

-psianime

The whole purpose of a credit union is that it groups people that have something in common. In this case, that common ground is religion.

If you want to start a credit union for people with one testicle, feel free.

Viper GTS

 

[GasX]

Since when are Catholics a race?

 

[Oakenfold]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: psianime
It's a shame that people still do this =(

-psianime

The whole purpose of a credit union is that it groups people that have something in common. In this case, that common ground is religion.

If you want to start a credit union for people with one testicle, feel free.

Viper GTS

Well said!

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
This has got to be the stupidest thread of the week.

Racist? Illegal?

Viper GTS

Nah.... dumbest troll of the week.... this thread is just pure flamebait... NOONE on here can discuss anything to do with an organized religion... The irony being that atheism can be considered a "religion" as it's dogma is based on the belief of non-belief...

 

[Maverick]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I know of a few CUs that are for members of certain churches only, but not religions.

I wonder how one "proves" their Catholic to join this thing.

cheat on a conversion test

 

[Zebo]

Because we are special and Anthony Scolia is our friend

Hey maybe you should learn what racist means and how CU are charterd and the rules applying to them before you make such a ridiculus post?

 

[rufruf44]

One of the CU here specifically states "for US Citizen only". Anyone gonna yell racist to this one as well?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: psianime
It's a shame that people still do this =(

-psianime

The whole purpose of a credit union is that it groups people that have something in common. In this case, that common ground is religion.

If you want to start a credit union for people with one testicle, feel free.

Viper GTS

As usual, Viper says it very well. It's nice to know that he (and precious few others in this thread) can actually think rationally.

ZV

 

[ElFenix]

the church knows who its members are. you get mail soliciting for donations.

 

[vi edit]

The whole purpose of a credit union is that it groups people that have something in common. In this case, that common ground is religion.

If you want to start a credit union for people with one testicle, feel free.

Viper GTS

Can I get an Amen?

 

[Yomicron]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: axiom
Credit Unions are not publicly funded institutions. They can set their own guidelines if they wish. As cited above, Credit Unions are not FDIC insured. The are collectives. Groups of people that pool together, pay dues and help eachother reach certain financial goals. Popular among corporations, religious groups have also come to show their support for them.

"Accounts Federally Insured to $100,000 by NCUA, an agency of the U.S. Government"

well????

the NCUA maintains the National Credit Union Share Insurance Fund which is made up entirely of private funds (no tax dollars).

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: psianime
It's a shame that people still do this =(

-psianime

The whole purpose of a credit union is that it groups people that have something in common. In this case, that common ground is religion.

If you want to start a credit union for people with one testicle, feel free.

Viper GTS

HEY! I wanna join!

Oh c'mon, I can't be the ONLY one in here with just one...er, I am? Oh. Well, nevermind.

 

[gopunk]

Nah.... dumbest troll of the week.... this thread is just pure flamebait... NOONE on here can discuss anything to do with an organized religion... The irony being that atheism can be considered a "religion" as it's dogma is based on the belief of non-belief...

lol, what is this "dogma" you speak of? i'm atheist, and i have never encountered this "dogma". it's not like we have some kind of "atheist book" that we read every day and quote out of whenever somebody says something we disagree with.

 

[Oakenfold]

NCUA is basically= FDIC(this is however for BANKS)

 

[BigSmooth]

If they only hired Catholics, THAT would be illegal.

 

[JupiterJones]

Originally posted by: axiom
Denying you of something based on Religious choice is not Racist. Denying you of something based on your Race is Racist.

Exactly. The Catholics equally accept all races. I wonder though, what if it was Christian Identity only?