how big are flac files?

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  1. dpopiz

    dpopiz Diamond Member

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    I've never seen a flac file. could you give a few examples of how big your files are?

    - audio length
    - sampling rate
    - bitrate
    - file size
     
  2. rh71

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    I can tell you they're comparable to WAV sizes. I think it was like 40-60MB+ each on avg.
     
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    holy moly that can't be

    what's the point if they're as big as wavs?
     
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    Pepsi90919 Banned

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    they shave off about 10-15 megs on average, at least monkey's audio does

    bitrates range from 800kb/sec to 1200kb/sec
     
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    their quality is supposed to be much better of course. The only FLAC files I've heard though, are MetallicA concerts... so the quality doesn't really shine. ;)
     
  6. kag

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    The point is that it's a lossless compression format.
     
  7. pulse8

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    If they are the same size of the WAV, then they aren't compressed. Also, nothing will sound better than an uncompressed WAV.

    Anyway, I have a 5 minute and 43 second file and it's 34.2MB.
     
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    If they shave 10-15MB off a WAV, they are compressed. And if they're lossless, they will sound just as good as a WAV.
     
  9. NuclearFusi0n

    NuclearFusi0n Diamond Member

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    They usually are around 60 to 75 percent the size of the wav, while still retaining 100% of the quality.
     
  10. Sid59

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    75% is a bit hight.

    i keep the figures around 50-60%
     
  11. dc

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    depends on what type of music it is, some music compress much better than other types. so far i've been getting ~70-80%. not much of savings, but better than nothing i guess.
     
  12. DaveSimmons

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    In other terms, out of 800 or so rock CDs I've ripped to FLAC the average space per CD was about 300 MB. Pretty reasonable for lossless given a cheap 160 GB will store about 500 CDs.

    For most CDs it probably won't sound any better than 320 kbps MP3, but with lossless you can enocde to different formats and bitrates as needed without the extra drop in quality from re-encoding lossy compressed files.
     
  13. NuclearFusi0n

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    296 3 Doors Down - Better Life, The
    361 Alanis Morissette - Under Rug Swept
    511 Anabolic Frolic - Happy2bHardcore Chapter 4
    543 Anabolic Frolic - Happy2bHardcore Chapter 5
    544 Anabolic Frolic - Happy2bHardcore Chapter 7
    486 ATB - Movin' Melodies
    572 ATB - Two Worlds
    477 Audioslave - Audioslave
    291 Bad Religion - New America, The
    274 Bad Religion - Process of Belief, The
    360 Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
    188 Boards of Canada - Twoism
    392 BT - Movement In Still Life
    1042 BT - Rare & Remixed
    268 Coldplay - Parachutes
    352 Coldplay - Rush of Blood to the Head, A
    392 Crystal Method, The - Vegas
    452 Cypress Hill - Skull & Bones
    332 Deftones - Deftones
    356 Deftones - White Pony
    445 DJ Tiësto - In My Memory
    212 DJ Tiësto - In My Memory Remixes
    525 DJ Tiësto - In Search of Sunrise 3
    517 DJ Tiësto - Live at Innercity - Amsterdam RAI
    382 Eminem - Slim Shady LP, The
    307 Evanescence - Fallen
    277 Eve 6 - Eve 6
    307 Eve 6 - Horrorscope
    349 Everclear - So Much for the Afterglow
    325 Everclear - Songs from an American Movie, Vol. One - Learning How to Smile
    399 Filter - Amalgamut, The
    298 Filter - Short Bus
    394 Filter - Title of Record
    322 Foo Fighters - Colour and the Shape, The
    386 Foo Fighters - One by One
    336 Foo Fighters - There is Nothing Left to Lose
    417 Garbage - Beautiful Garbage
    362 Garbage - Garbage
    352 Garbage - Version 2.0
    273 Green Day - Dookie
    315 Green Day - Warning
    282 Hoobastank - Hoobastank
    332 Incubus - Make Yourself
    460 Incubus - Morning View
    243 Joel McNeely - Star Wars - Shadows of the Empire
    932 John Digweed - Bedrock
    424 Kruder & Dorfmeister - Conversions (A K & D Selection)
    277 Linkin Park - Meteora
    481 Linkin Park - Reanimation
    331 Lit - Atomic
    326 Lit - Place in the Sun, A
    407 Live - Distance to Here, The
    332 Live - Mental Jewelry
    398 Live - Throwing Copper
    358 Living End, The - Living End, The
    558 Metallica - Load
    434 Moby - 18
    368 Moby - Play
    440 Nelly - Country Grammar
    400 N.E.R.D. - In Search Of
    278 Nickelback - Silver Side Up
    275 Nickelback - State, The
    279 Nirvana - In Utero
    281 Nirvana - Nevermind
    329 Nirvana - Unplugged In New York
    420 No Doubt - Return of Saturn
    425 No Doubt - Tragic Kingdom
    307 Offspring, The - Americana
    287 Offspring, The - Conspiracy of One
    279 Offspring, The - Ignition
    304 Offspring, The - Ixnay on the Hombre
    297 Offspring, The - Smash
    990 Paul Oakenfold - Global Underground 002 - New York
    504 Paul Oakenfold - Voyage Into Trance, A
    987 Paul van Dyk - Out There and Back
    1016 Paul van Dyk - Politics of Dancing, The
    1574 Paul van Dyk - Vorsprung Dyk Technik
    243 Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon, The
    384 Pink Floyd - Division Bell, The
    261 Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
    467 Propellerheads - Decksanddrumsandrockandroll
    463 Queen - Classic Queen
    369 Queen - Greatest Hits
    283 Radiohead - Amnesiac
    295 Radiohead - Kid A
    361 Radiohead - OK Computer
    326 Rage Against the Machine - Battle of Los Angeles, The
    320 Rage Against the Machine - Evil Empire
    487 Rage Against the Machine - Renegades
    494 Red Hot Chili Peppers - By the Way
    404 Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication
    251 Requiem for a Dream
    466 Sandra Collins - Tranceport 3
    488 Sarah McLachlan - Remixed
    509 Sasha and John Digweed - Northern Exposure
    284 Social Distortion - Social Distortion
    411 Sublime - Sublime
    289 System of a Down - System of a Down
    322 System of a Down - Toxicity
    475 Tool - Ænima
    463 Tool - Lateralus
    417 Tool - Undertow
    448 Various Artists - Matrix, The
    425 Various Artists - Spawn

    Megabytes per album. some of them may be inflated because I rip the data track as an ISO. Those albums are Alanis Morissette - Under Rug Swept, Linkin Park - Reanimation, Garbage - Beautiful Garbage, and Incubus - Morning View.

    That should give you a decent idea of FLAC's compression ratio. These were all compressed using -8, the highest compression setting IIRC.
     
  14. NuclearFusi0n

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    did i kill thread