How bad would a war have to get before someone considers using nukes?

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judasmachine

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I'd nuke most of California even though we are not currently at war with them.

we have always been at war with eurasia.............er..........californ.............this doesn't sound right, nuke them anyway.
 

bobdole369

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I would think at least as bad as World War 2.

Would be facing an invasion force involving a million people where half are expected to perish, and the destruction of 2 cities would accomplish the same as the invasion force would with only 50,000 casualties.
 

middlehead

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
In the case of China vs USA... China would most likely launch theirs as soon as their 10,000 calvalrymen gets mowed down by 2 Abrams tanks.

:thumbsup:
 

Pocatello

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India and Pakistan. It would be very scary if the Talibans, some how, would get their hands on a nuke.
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: destrekor
No, the claims would be that as Iran, the future return of their prophet could only be a day of rejoicing if Israel had been nuked, and that they had communication with Allah telling them they must wipe Israel off the face of the planet.
The question is.. when will it happen, and will they only attack Israel or will they also attempt to nuke other countries that support Israel, like the US?

You've heard the phrase "talk is cheap"? Despite the Iranian government's messianic rhetoric, their behavior has been very pragmatic. Their chief goal is the survival of the regime and they've achieved that quite well. They're far from being insane.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: destrekor
No, the claims would be that as Iran, the future return of their prophet could only be a day of rejoicing if Israel had been nuked, and that they had communication with Allah telling them they must wipe Israel off the face of the planet.
The question is.. when will it happen, and will they only attack Israel or will they also attempt to nuke other countries that support Israel, like the US?

You've heard the phrase "talk is cheap"? Despite the Iranian government's messianic rhetoric, their behavior has been very pragmatic. Their chief goal is the survival of the regime and they've achieved that quite well. They're far from being insane.

They're being very conservative in what they really do - I really believe it's only a matter of time before they start pushing their agenda a little more. Right now with a lot of the word carefully watching them is obviously not the right time, and I very much doubt they'll do anything alone, or even officially. But their push for nuclear development, isn't exactly enlightening. And with NK pushing ahead now with their nuclear development once again, who knows what will happen in the future.

I very much hope Iran is all bark and no bite, but it just takes one little moment for everything to change. All talk and nothing can instantaneously lead, at the right opportunity, to a big issue.
 

wwswimming

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depends on the definition of "using nukes".

when the US gov. talks about "terrorists" using nukes, they include the action of
spreading "dirty bombs". e.g., nuclear waste.

well, the US has spread many hundreds of tons of depleted uranium already,
around Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yugoslavia.

there was no threshold - they did it because it's convenient.

if you want to know what i'm talking about, do a web search for Depleted Uranium.
 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Mojoed
Depends on the country.

I have a feeling Iran will eventually "lose" a nuke, and very bad things may happen.

I don't think the people in charge of Iran are that stupid.

Pakistan's goverment is holding onto power by a string. Once it topples I look for the Tabilan to help themselves and roast a few million americans like a marshmellow at a bad picnic.
 

alyarb

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Originally posted by: wwswimming
depends on the definition of "using nukes".

when the US gov. talks about "terrorists" using nukes, they include the action of
spreading "dirty bombs". e.g., nuclear waste.

well, the US has spread many hundreds of tons of depleted uranium already,
around Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yugoslavia.

there was no threshold - they did it because it's convenient.

if you want to know what i'm talking about, do a web search for Depleted Uranium.

i'm going to guess that you aren't a scientist. you're just a pussyfaced hippy who can only imagine all sorts of health concerns when you hear the word "uranium," even though you don't have a clue about nuclear chemistry and never will. i'm not going to bore you with all of my silly science, but i can tell you that depleted uranium is safer than naturally occurring uranium because the minuscule abundances of radiologically hazardous isotopes have been processed out. hence the term "depleted." the least you can do is make a quick pass over wikipedia before you open your mouth on subjects in which you are entirely amateur.

no offense or anything. do you think we use DU ammo to get the enemy with radiation sickness? no, we do it because it's a heavy metal. the enemy won't get really sick. they'll get really hurt.
 

Zolty

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Originally posted by: alyarb
it won't be their joke of an administration that nukes us, it will be some radical group. we should just clean up their mess now.

P&N ^^
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: destrekor
I very much hope Iran is all bark and no bite, but it just takes one little moment for everything to change. All talk and nothing can instantaneously lead, at the right opportunity, to a big issue.

I wouldn't pay much attention to Ahmadinejad. Iran's president has no authority over the nation's military.
 

Freshgeardude

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Mojoed
Depends on the country.

I have a feeling Iran will eventually "lose" a nuke, and very bad things may happen.

I don't think the people in charge of Iran are that stupid.

then you never heard Ahmafuckingstupiddouchejad speak
 

Freshgeardude

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Mojoed
Depends on the country.

I have a feeling Iran will eventually "lose" a nuke, and very bad things may happen.

I don't think the people in charge of Iran are that stupid.

They are that crazy, though. No doubt they'll pin it on being stolen from Pakistan or something.


For any of the superpowers to start using nukes, they would only do so with the knowledge that their enemies can't (sabotage).

No, the claims would be that as Iran, the future return of their prophet could only be a day of rejoicing if Israel had been nuked, and that they had communication with Allah telling them they must wipe Israel off the face of the planet.
The question is.. when will it happen, and will they only attack Israel or will they also attempt to nuke other countries that support Israel, like the US?

I dont think Iran will have the balls to touch the US, and Obama already said any attempt of a nuclear attack on Israel will make the US bring the nukes (as well as Israel) to Iran and level the place in a day.


though, I do think WWIII is going to be the muslim world against the rest (radical, religion ran countries is what I am refering to) with support of venezula for the muslims and Iran taking the main lead.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: freshgeardude
I dont think Iran will have the balls to touch the US, and Obama already said any attempt of a nuclear attack on Israel will make the US bring the nukes (as well as Israel) to Iran and level the place in a day.

Link? I think the "Holocaust Declaration" would have made big news