How bad are SecuRom and newer DRM schemes in games?

[Mem]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: CP5670

I thought it I did ,old days you had a simple key which that was very very simple for pirates to crack,SecuRom etc comes in different versions that make it more difficult then a simple key(some Securom versions are harder to crack then others and definetly harder then a simple key)

All the evidence we've seen of how fast cracks are released flies in the face of this assertion.

So what are you saying they should give up?..again nobody has a perfect solution,SecuRom is only one out of many types of protection thats available,what the game company/publishers decide to use is down to them,I know one thing if it was me I would not use a simple key.

As to fast cracks thats why there is this ongoing battle ,niether side wants to give in.

Give up?
Not really, they should give up installing malware on our machines.
Why are you so convinced that SecuROM provides any benefit?
All you have to do is search *inster your favorite torrent site* a week before a game's street date and you'll see how little DRM does to deter these titles from getting pirated.

Again its not what I want,I don't have a solution,I did not invent SecuRom etc...I do understand why they want to protect their products however,again you can thank piracy for the problem not me,I'm just a gamer.

Piracy is a very serious issue for them ,I don't think you guys realize that,they have to do something does not matter if we like it or not.

And CD-keys are something.
Less intrusive for those who pay for the software and no less a deterrent to those that don't.
DRM is NOT the answer.

Did I say it was?..Obviously the answer was no,however I hate to burst your bubble but CD keys are NOT the answer either,CD keys are just too simple to bypass,again look at it from piracy side and games company/developers side you know CD key is not enough protection..Maybe one day we'll see some form of micro chip protection in game cases like we do on credit cards?

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: CP5670

I thought it I did ,old days you had a simple key which that was very very simple for pirates to crack,SecuRom etc comes in different versions that make it more difficult then a simple key(some Securom versions are harder to crack then others and definetly harder then a simple key)

All the evidence we've seen of how fast cracks are released flies in the face of this assertion.

So what are you saying they should give up?..again nobody has a perfect solution,SecuRom is only one out of many types of protection thats available,what the game company/publishers decide to use is down to them,I know one thing if it was me I would not use a simple key.

As to fast cracks thats why there is this ongoing battle ,niether side wants to give in.

Give up?
Not really, they should give up installing malware on our machines.
Why are you so convinced that SecuROM provides any benefit?
All you have to do is search *inster your favorite torrent site* a week before a game's street date and you'll see how little DRM does to deter these titles from getting pirated.

Again its not what I want,I don't have a solution,I did not invent SecuRom etc...I do understand why they want to protect their products however,again you can thank piracy for the problem not me,I'm just a gamer.

Piracy is a very serious issue for them ,I don't think you guys realize that,they have to do something does not matter if we like it or not.

And CD-keys are something.
Less intrusive for those who pay for the software and no less a deterrent to those that don't.
DRM is NOT the answer.

Did I say it was?..Obviously the answer was no,however I hate to burst your bubble but CD keys are NOT the answer either,CD keys are just too simple to bypass,again look at it from piracy side and games company/developers side you know CD key is not enough protection..Maybe one day we'll see some form of micro chip protection in game cases like we do on credit cards?

Then by your own logic DRM shouldn't be used either