how are you supposed to have peace with savages?

[kermalou]

Palestinian gunmen shoot man in Ramallah street



Three masked gunmen have executed a Palestinian man in the centre of the West Bank city of Ramallah on Thursday after accusing him of being a collaborator, witnesses and security sources said.

The three said they were from the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, an armed offshoot of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, witnesses said.

"The guy had a mask on and had his hands tied behind his back," one witness told AFP.

"Before they shot him, they took off his mask. They then said he was a collaborator and we sentence him to death."

The trio fired around 10 bullets into the victim's back before fleeing shortly after 4:30pm (11:30pm AEST), witnesses said.

 

[Matt2]

Actions like this disgust me. Everyone flames the sh1t out of Israel, but like you said, how can you negotiate peace with someone who knows nothing but violence. The only language palestinian gunmen understand is the rumble of Israeli tanks.

How is Israeli supposed to react to almost daily suicide bombings by terror groups who are admittedly Palestinian? Is Palestine, who is supposedly fighting for independence not responsible for the actions of it's people?

Now even Palestinians are no longer safe from their own terror groups? Shame on them.

 

[Zebo]

Want me to post pictures of all the israeli massacres? Have some dooseys of shooting unarmed children then posing for photos after with thier kill.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Want me to post pictures of all the israeli massacres? Have some dooseys of shooting unarmed children then posing for photos after with thier kill.

Sure, go ahead.

 

[Zebo]

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[RDWYTruckDriver]

we can play the link game all day if you want ...

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Palestinian Kids:The Future


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[Zebo]

Exactly RWD, there will never be peace with hatred and attitudes the way kermalou started this thread.

Where's Moonie... Oh I'll say it ...You become what you hate.
;;;...

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Exactly RWD, there will never be peace with hatred and attitudes the way kermalou started this thread.

Where's Moonie... Oh I'll say it ...You become what you hate.
;;;...

zebo, it sounds just as stupid when you say it as when moonie says it.

 

[DealMonkey]

You're pretty ignorant if you think it's not a two-way street over there. The cycle of violence has been going on for so long, it's hard to know who started it. But it really doesn't matter. Both sides have committed attrocities and it'll take both sides to settle this once and for all. Assuming there's to be any kind of lasting peace between the Isrealis and Palestinians...

 

[konichiwa]

There are "savages," terrorists and criminals (of all kinds; war, humanity, common) on either side. To suggest that one side deserves any more blame than the other is tantamount to partial (selective?) reasoning.

They won't get anywhere until the "bad guys" (for lack of a more definite term) on either side are forced out of the equation.

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

Personally, I can understand why Israel would have hatred towards Arabic States and their peoples. These Arabic States / Governments / Peoples have from day 1 wanted nothing more than the " total " destruction of Israel and of the " total " elimination of " all " Israelis everywhere and have not yet tried to stop with these goals in mind.

Arabs Have Never Accepted Israel

This is my view and don't expect anyone who differs from my viewpoint to agree or ever agree.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: RDWYTruckDriver
Personally, I can understand why Israel would have hatred towards Arabic States and their peoples. These Arabic States / Governments / Peoples have from day 1 wanted nothing more than the " total " destruction of Israel and of the " total " elimination of " all " Israelis everywhere and have not yet tried to stop with these goals in mind.

Arabs Have Never Accepted Israel

This is my view and don't expect anyone who differs from my viewpoint to agree or ever agree.

Think about it this way...if the UN gave me mandate to kick you out of your house and live in it for two or three generations (so far), would you be any less hostile towards me?

Yes, the plight of the jews in WW2 was horrific and ghastly, but it didn't have anything to do with Palestine.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You're pretty ignorant if you think it's not a two-way street over there. The cycle of violence has been going on for so long, it's hard to know who started it. But it really doesn't matter. Both sides have committed attrocities and it'll take both sides to settle this once and for all. Assuming there's to be any kind of lasting peace between the Isrealis and Palestinians...

The only way this will be resolved is if America get serious and sets up a DMZ between them with peace keepers....Too much blood spilt it seems. And hatred and mistrust beyond description.

Peoples have from day 1 wanted nothing more than the " total " destruction of Israel and of the " total " elimination of " all " Israelis everywhere and have not yet tried to stop with these goals in mind.

They will never have to worry about that again with the massive nuclear arsenal they have..

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

The only way this will be resolved is if America get serious and sets up a DMZ between them with peace keepers....Too much blood spilt it seems. And hatred and mistrust beyond description.

I agree with that statement but I'd like to see the U.N take it up rather than just Americans.

 

[Matt2]

It is a mutual hatred.

How many times did Arab countries try and annihilate Israel? How many times did Israel send them back with broken noses?

 

[Zebo]

RWD, Read this link ...Written by a JEW too.
"Three MYTHS of Israel...
First, Jews have an unbreakable emotional bond with the land of Israel. Second, anti-semitism is a permanent threat to every Jew. And third, Israel is the Jews? only dependable refuge against that threat. "
......"Every myth has very practical effects. In order to believe in their myth, American Jews must constantly see Israel threatened. That means Israel must always have an enemy. For the purposes of myth, the name and nature of the enemy hardly matters. So it is not surprising that it is always changing. For decades the enemy was a generic faceless mass called ?the Arabs.? Once Israel made peace with Egypt and clearly had peaceable relations with Jordan, the enemy was reduced to specific Arab states, most notably Syria and Iraq. During the 1980s, the sense of enmity focused more on the Palestinians. After the 1993 Oslo agreements, the enemy became Hamas and other Palestinian Islamist groups. Recently, Yasir Arafat and his ruling circle have been put back in the category of enemy, along with Saddam Hussein, of course. Given the influence of Israel and its supporters in the U.S. government, this act of identifying an enemy has enormous political consequences."link

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

A link to somebody's viewpoint. I'm sure they feel they are correct. But the story of Arabs vs. Jews goes back thousands of years so there will be several viewpoints from many people in this world. There are Arabic people out there that have and do put blame on other Arabs for this continuing conflict.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: RDWYTruckDriver
A link to somebody's viewpoint. I'm sure they feel they are correct. But the story of Arabs vs. Jews goes back thousands of years so there will be several viewpoints from many people in this world. There are Arabic people out there that have and do put blame on other Arabs for this continuing conflict.

It was a scholarly view though and the man has serious credentials

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: RDWYTruckDriver
A link to somebody's viewpoint. I'm sure they feel they are correct. But the story of Arabs vs. Jews goes back thousands of years so there will be several viewpoints from many people in this world. There are Arabic people out there that have and do put blame on other Arabs for this continuing conflict.

So your position is that it's all the Arabs fault and Israel has not a shred of responsibility in any of this?

 

[Matt2]

Bad idea for a DMZ with US peace keepers. As Zebo can tell you, I am all for the whole US keep the peace, but that is one area of the world where US combat units should not go.

The second American troops set foot in Israel, the conflict is going to take a dangerous turn that will cause irreversable damage.

The first drop of American blood spilled by a Palestinian militant and it will become an American conflict. One that will throw the entire region into chaos.

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

So your position is that it's all the Arabs fault and Israel has not a shred of responsibility in any of this?

Not " all " Arabs. Just the ones of the Islamic extreme view that continue to wage a " holy war " against Israelis. As long a these extremist continue to plan / execute / call for Israel's total destruction, I'm all for and support " any " Israeli mission to try to stop them.

 

[mooncancook]

can you believe they were once the same family?

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Zebo
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Who Shot Mohammed al-Dura?

 

[Bleep]

Am i missing something here? The links posted by Zebo relate to events that happend almost 60 years ago. How about something a little more up to date.

Bleep

 

[DealMonkey]

I don't know. It seems like a finger-pointing contest. Pretty much a mirror of the actual conflict.