how are we supposed to know IT'S THE LAW ???

[waggy]

It is also in all DMV books i have read. i thought it was common knowledge.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Anubis
I DONT KNOW, whats the reasoning behind doing this? you have a handbrake for hill parking, and we were told to use that, explain!!!!!!

When you roll backwards or forwards (somehow), where would your car go if your wheels were turned in ?

Depends if there is a curb or not. Uphill, turn them one direction (pointing out) so the car's front tires would roll against the curb if the break let go. Set the other direction (pointing towards the non-existant curb) if there is no curb so the car would roll back out of the street. Downhill, the car's wheels are always pointed toward the curb (or non-existant curb) regardless if there is a curb or not.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Anubis
I DONT KNOW, whats the reasoning behind doing this? you have a handbrake for hill parking, and we were told to use that, explain!!!!!!

When you roll backwards or forwards (somehow), where would your car go if your wheels were turned in ?

Depends if there is a curb or not. Uphill, turn them one direction (pointing out) so the car's front tires would roll against the curb if the break let go. Set the other direction (pointing towards the non-existant curb) if there is no curb so the car would roll back out of the street. Downhill, the car's wheels are always pointed toward the curb (or non-existant curb) regardless if there is a curb or not.

Sounds like someone has to modify the law then... cause his letter said to turn them in regardless. I'd hate to get another ticket because logic made more sense than what the law stated...

 

[DotheDamnTHing]

Originally posted by: brtspears2
I thought this was standard practice, as shown in the DMV handbooks.

 

[Vic]

- Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law.

- Was this in SF? If so, there are signs EVERYWHERE in SF warning people of this law.

- The hills in SF are so steep that a car could possibly still roll even in gear (or Park) with the handbrake up.

- No, resting the tire in against the curb cannot hurt or damage the car (I don't see how you could think so, the suspension is designed to support the weight of the car after all).

This is a common practice and I do it everytime I park on a hill. Reminder: if you're facing down the hill, you turn the tires into the curb; if you're facing up the hill, you turn the tires away from the curb.

 

[aphex]

Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law.

Was about to say the same thing.

Mistake of Law ---> No excuse
Mistake of Fact ---> Excuse

 

[Yossarian]

I live in CA and had no idea that this was a law. I turn the tires in all the time, but I thought it was just a good idea in case of brake failure.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Meh....with alot of the curbs around here the tires would just roll over them as if they weren't there and the car would be in the middle of the street anyway.

 

[911paramedic]

The only laws you are not subject to if you are from out of state are some that apply to the vehicle itself. I live in NV and have very dark tint all around, as long as my car is registered in NV they cannot ticket me for tint like they would if it were registered in CA.

Motor vehicle laws regarding what you do on the roadways in the state still apply, and that includes parking.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
The only laws you are not subject to if you are from out of state are some that apply to the vehicle itself. I live in NV and have very dark tint all around, as long as my car is registered in NV they cannot ticket me for tint like they would if it were registered in CA.

Motor vehicle laws regarding what you do on the roadways in the state still apply, and that includes parking.

got ticketed in ny for this offense with CT plates....i'd check your facts.

 

[esun]

I had a similar thing happen to me, where I didn't know it was against the law to do something, namely I parked rear-end in to an angled space in a particular Irvine parking lot (IVC, for those that know the area). Got a $20 ticket, paid it, no big deal. It just bothers me because at my high school a lot of people park like that even though the lot is also angled spaces (so I assume it's not illegal everywhere) of the same type at IVC, and I've never seen a sign at IVC indicating it is illegal, so I never gave it a second thought (and had done it numerous times before getting ticketed and seen others do it as well).

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: rh71
Brother got a $49 ticket for parking his car on a hill (I wasn't there) without turning his wheels in. His license plate still says NY on it. Whatever happened to warnings ? On the letter he got, it states that no sign/posting is necessary for this law to be enforced. Well that's all fine and dandy but how are we supposed to know in the first place ??? He's been there less than 1 month and came across this his 2nd week. He's contesting it.

Ignorance is not a valid defense. He moved here therefore it is his duty to learn and obey the laws. Chalk it up to "I learned it the hard way."

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: rh71
His license plate still says NY on it. Whatever happened to warnings ?

I always thought they preferred to ticket out-of-state people because you are less likely/able to contest it. They just want your money when you get right down to it. Preferably without a fght.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: CPA
This is why you make sure that the idiot politicians who pass idiotic laws like these get canned in the next election.

Actually, this law has been around longer than the idiot politicians who are currently in office.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: rh71
It is not standard practice. It is safe practice. In driver's ed, they taught us to look over our shoulders too, but does everyone ? I'm sure not everyone pulls their handbrakes either.. should they get tickets ? All we ask for was either a warning or a sign.

I got yelled at so many times for not looking over my shoulder before changing lanes. Dumbest thing ever. Instead of teaching people how to properly set their mirrors so that they can see what's to the sides of them instead of duplicating the center mirror and making the sideview mirrors pointless, they tell you to look over your shoulder. I have my mirros set such that just before a car disappears from my peripheral vision, it shows up in my sideview mirror and just before it disappears from my sideview mirror, it shows up in my center mirror, etc.

ZV

 

[The Stigenator]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: rh71
It is not standard practice. It is safe practice. In driver's ed, they taught us to look over our shoulders too, but does everyone ? I'm sure not everyone pulls their handbrakes either.. should they get tickets ? All we ask for was either a warning or a sign.

I got yelled at so many times for not looking over my shoulder before changing lanes. Dumbest thing ever. Instead of teaching people how to properly set their mirrors so that they can see what's to the sides of them instead of duplicating the center mirror and making the sideview mirrors pointless, they tell you to look over your shoulder. I have my mirros set such that just before a car disappears from my peripheral vision, it shows up in my sideview mirror and just before it disappears from my sideview mirror, it shows up in my center mirror, etc.

ZV

that's how i have mine setup, but beileve it or not, there is a small "blind spot" and I nearly creamed a motorcycle that was in that spot.. Thank god I also turn my head to check the mirrors, and i caught him when i turned my head.

Bloody motorcyclist should have known not to ride in my blind spot..

Rule of thumb for motorcyclist: if you cant see the drivers eyes on his mirrors, he cant see you.

 

This is the big catch 22 the govt uses to F you.

"Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse"
What a crock of bs.