How Are Indian Casinos Not Racial Discrimination?

[Patranus]

How are indian casinos not racial discrimination?

In California the state has to approve casinos built on "indian" land.
How is it not discrimination based on race if the state allows certain people (but not others) to build casinos solely based on their race?

 

[Slew Foot]

I think indian reservations are technically not regulated by all federal/state laws or something like that.

 

[Cuda1447]

Reparations is not discrimination? Or something like that...

 

[Patranus]

I think indian reservations are technically not regulated by all federal/state laws or something like that.

Why are they regulated by state gaming commissions?

 

[Jhhnn]

It depends on the terms of the treaty made between the US govt and whatever Indian nation we're talking about. At the time the treaties were made, Native American tribes were treated as foreign nations, and those treaties remain in effect to this day.

Those treaties were definitely racist at the time, and today they're just another example of the law of unintended consequences...

 

[Throckmorton]

Because Indian nations are semi sovereign and so is their land.

 

[Matthiasa]

Tell you what, we could cede them back all the land we took from them that we said they should have through treaty then, or we could let them have casinos.
What do you think is the better idea?

 

[nonlnear]

Who ever claimed that it wasn't racial discrimination? That would be ludicrous! The key is that the treaties from which their tax status is derived (and eventually the incentives to run gaming establishments) supersede the various state and federal discrimination statutes.

 

[Hacp]

Tell you what, we could cede them back all the land we took from them that we said they should have through treaty then, or we could let them have casinos.
What do you think is the better idea?

Or we can invade them, steal their lands and claim them as our own.

 

[Patranus]

Because Indian nations are semi sovereign and so is their land.

Except for the fact that many times they buy land in cities to use and they are regulated by state gaming commissions.

Again, if indians are able to purchase property in a city and open a casino on it, why should they be able to do it simply because of their race and not someone who is african american, asian, hispanic, or white?

 

[Perknose]

Again, if indians are able to purchase property in a city and open a casino on it, why should they be able to do it simply because of their race and not someone who is african american, asian, hispanic, or white?

Because they have this legal right not by virtue their race but by the sovereignty of their tribe as a separate political entity having made a legally binding treaty with another political entity, the USA.

A member of a different tribe can't build or own that same casino, yet is of the same race.

See? Not race based. Treaty based between separate sovereign entities.

Of course, you already knew this, you just wanted to start another of your stupid troll threads.

 

[nonlnear]

See? Not race based. Treaty based between separate sovereign entities.

Obviously it's not race based (which is an important distinction, so thank you for being more precise than I was), but effectively racial - in the virtually meaningless sense that the term gets thrown around in common conversation. The real point (which you are also making quite clearly) is that whatever you want to call the discrimination (racial *ugh*, national, tribal, etc.), it would be illegal under anti-discrimination statutes as written. However they do not apply because the treaties supersede them.

 

[SandEagle]

as long as i can get cheap cigarrettes, who cares?

 

[ElFenix]

somehow this ties in with the tanning booth tax being a racial tax because only white college girls go tanning in tanning salons :hmm:

 

[Perknose]

somehow this ties in with the tanning booth tax being a racial tax because only white college girls go tanning in tanning salons :hmm:

Who will have the courage to speak for the melanin challenged?

 

[First]

The better question is how have you not yet been banned for being an obvious parody poster?

 

[JSt0rm]

this thread 7/10 bravo

 

[Danube]

The Cherokee have casinos. They were also prolific slave owners who signed a treaty to fight with the confederacy in 1861. A few years back they voted to reject black decedents who claimed Cherokee lineage.

"Cherokees eject slave descendants"

Members of the Cherokee Nation of native Americans have voted to revoke tribal citizenship for descendants of black slaves the Cherokees once owned.

A total of 76.6% voted to amend the tribal constitution to limit citizenship to "blood" tribe members.
Supporters said only the Cherokees had the right to determine tribal members.

Opponents said the amendment was racist and aimed at preventing those with African-American heritage from gaining tribal revenue and government funding.
The Cherokee Nation has 250,000 to 270,000 members, second only to the Navajo.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6416735.stm

 

[zsdersw]

Or we can invade them, steal their lands and claim them as our own.

Good idea, but I have a supplemental idea to yours that's even better: You pay for it, exclusively, out of your own pocket. Neither I nor the rest of the state/nation should have to contribute to such a stupid proposal.

 

[Tristicus]

We owe those Indians for everything we stole!

 

[rudder]

Indian tribes are their own government... they don't listen to Washington.

 

[Linflas]

Because they have this legal right not by virtue their race but by the sovereignty of their tribe as a separate political entity having made a legally binding treaty with another political entity, the USA.

A member of a different tribe can't build or own that same casino, yet is of the same race.

See? Not race based. Treaty based between separate sovereign entities.

Of course, you already knew this, you just wanted to start another of your stupid troll threads.

This is how I understood it to be so I am curious by what authority a state gaming commission has any say in it? I've never thought of it being a race based thing either and curiously enough this whole Indian casino issue is what is preventing some remaining descendents of 6 Virginia Indian tribes from gaining official Federal recognition. They have since signed agreements to forgo their rights to establish casinos. I believe the issue is back in Congress again and may finally get resolved this session.

 

[Slick5150]

This is how I understood it to be so I am curious by what authority a state gaming commission has any say in it? I've never thought of it being a race based thing either and curiously enough this whole Indian casino issue is what is preventing some remaining descendents of 6 Virginia Indian tribes from gaining official Federal recognition. They have since signed agreements to forgo their rights to establish casinos. I believe the issue is back in Congress again and may finally get resolved this session.

It's all part of the treaties they've signed with the federal government.

Look at it this way, if your tribe spends $100 million to build a casino, do you really want another tribe 5 miles down to build one right next door and dilute your customer base to a point you can't make a profit? The tribes actually like having that certain amount of regulation involved in the process.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Choctaw Indian Bingo! Everyones a winner! Bring the kids!
Just a few miles up the freeway

 

[MJinZ]

How are indian casinos not racial discrimination?

In California the state has to approve casinos built on "indian" land.
How is it not discrimination based on race if the state allows certain people (but not others) to build casinos solely based on their race?

Discrimination?

It's called benefits from reparations.

Also, what I suspect Affirmative Action basically is.