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How are groups like ELF not considered Terrorist?

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: preslove
If you include christian terrorists and hate groups this is not true. If you put a monetory figure (include medical bills of the injured) on the damages of the Oklahoma City bombing and all the abortion clinics, added to 9/11 result has to dwarf and ecoterrorism. I really think you are exagerating the ELF's activities.

ok small one 30k

ok onother small one. just a tractor but it states since 1997 elf has caused over 100 million in damage.

oh crap i was going to list them but screw it. Do some research.

This link says that the 9-11 attacks did approximately $100 billion in damage, not including people's lives.

1997-2004 is over 7 years. If we say ELF is doing $100 million in damage every 7 years, then they'll equal out with the 9-11 attack in roughly the year 9004. 9-11 was 1000 times more significant than everything ELF has ever done.


sure 9/11 was a lot of damage.

but that was one hit. Over the years elf has hit many times a year. it seems every year 60 minutes or 20/20 does something on them.

They have ruined homes. business and peoples lives also. I'm just amazed that the goverment is not cracking down harder on them.

Since we are in this "war on terror" i would think now would be a good time to do it also.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: preslove
If you include christian terrorists and hate groups this is not true. If you put a monetory figure (include medical bills of the injured) on the damages of the Oklahoma City bombing and all the abortion clinics, added to 9/11 result has to dwarf and ecoterrorism. I really think you are exagerating the ELF's activities.

ok small one 30k

ok onother small one. just a tractor but it states since 1997 elf has caused over 100 million in damage.

oh crap i was going to list them but screw it. Do some research.

9/11 is estimated to have cause $100 Billion in damages. Here is one Link though it is burried in there. Maybe you should do some research. The numbers just don't compare. ELF is a little blip not worth the FBI's Counter Terrorist efforts.

Then how about we take some money away from the DEA so the FBI can take out the ELF.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: preslove
If you include christian terrorists and hate groups this is not true. If you put a monetory figure (include medical bills of the injured) on the damages of the Oklahoma City bombing and all the abortion clinics, added to 9/11 result has to dwarf and ecoterrorism. I really think you are exagerating the ELF's activities.

ok small one 30k

ok onother small one. just a tractor but it states since 1997 elf has caused over 100 million in damage.

oh crap i was going to list them but screw it. Do some research.

This link says that the 9-11 attacks did approximately $100 billion in damage, not including people's lives.

1997-2004 is over 7 years. If we say ELF is doing $100 million in damage every 7 years, then they'll equal out with the 9-11 attack in roughly the year 9004. 9-11 was 1000 times more significant than everything ELF has ever done.


sure 9/11 was a lot of damage.

but that was one hit. Over the years elf has hit many times a year. it seems every year 60 minutes or 20/20 does something on them.

They have ruined homes. business and peoples lives also. I'm just amazed that the goverment is not cracking down harder on them.

Since we are in this "war on terror" i would think now would be a good time to do it also.


Yes, that was "one hit." But it caused more damage than ELF will ever, concievably mete out. AND we know that al-Quaida is planning more of these "one hit"s. So, which group should the FBI and CIA devote their scarce resources to destroying? If you say ELF, please, don't go anywhere near a government position.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: preslove
If you include christian terrorists and hate groups this is not true. If you put a monetory figure (include medical bills of the injured) on the damages of the Oklahoma City bombing and all the abortion clinics, added to 9/11 result has to dwarf and ecoterrorism. I really think you are exagerating the ELF's activities.

ok small one 30k

ok onother small one. just a tractor but it states since 1997 elf has caused over 100 million in damage.

oh crap i was going to list them but screw it. Do some research.

This link says that the 9-11 attacks did approximately $100 billion in damage, not including people's lives.

1997-2004 is over 7 years. If we say ELF is doing $100 million in damage every 7 years, then they'll equal out with the 9-11 attack in roughly the year 9004. 9-11 was 1000 times more significant than everything ELF has ever done.


sure 9/11 was a lot of damage.

but that was one hit. Over the years elf has hit many times a year. it seems every year 60 minutes or 20/20 does something on them.

They have ruined homes. business and peoples lives also. I'm just amazed that the goverment is not cracking down harder on them.

Since we are in this "war on terror" i would think now would be a good time to do it also.


Yes, that was "one hit." But it cause more damage than ELF will ever, concievably mete out. AND we know that al-Quaida is planning more of these "one hit"s. So, which group should the FBI and CIA devote their scarce resources to stamping out? If you say ELF, please, don't go anywhere near a government position.

so you are saying the goverment can only look at one group at a time?

damn sucks. I guess all other groups get free raign to do what they want eh? bummer!
 
Because they are liberals with the ACLU on their side...

personally the ACLU are the biggest Terrorists within our boarders. Trashing the moral fiber of America everyday. Actually they stick up for terrorist if I am not mistaken.
 
I am sure the government has resources assigned to each listed terrorist group. I think preslove is rightly saying that the most resources are going to be designated to the eradication of those groups that pose the greatest threat to people.

So far, ELF hasn't crossed the line of murdering anyone, whereas Al-Qaeda's (sp?) biggest wet dream is the death of every American. I think we can afford to put off the vigorous pursuit of ELF until Al-Qaeda is destroyed.
 
Originally posted by: EXman
Because they are liberals with the ACLU on their side...

personally the ACLU are the biggest Terrorists within our boarders. Trashing the moral fiber of America everyday. Actually they stick up for terrorist if I am not mistaken.

I agree with you about the ACLU. But there have been times i agree with them. just not often.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: preslove
They aren't stamped out because of limited resources. Which is more important: stopping long hairs from burning up private property, or stopping religious fanatics from burning up your children?

well lets see. in how many years there have been how many attacks on the US? Now how many attacks have Elf and there kind done?

while Elf has not had as huge one time hit they have caused just as much if NOT more damage.

I doubt that all their total actions cost as much as one tower of the WTC.

true.

But over the years they have racked up a bunch in damage. they are terriost and should be treated as such.


If you include christian terrorists and hate groups this is not true. If you put a monetory figure (include medical bills of the injured) on the damages of the Oklahoma City bombing and all the abortion clinics, added to 9/11 result has to dwarf and ecoterrorism. I really think you are exagerating the ELF's activities.
If you include christian terrorists and hate groups this is not true. Sounds like you hate christians to me. Calling extremists that say that they Christian is as bad as saying all muslims are bad because Al Queada. They are Posers either is not religious they are caught up in a cult of personality that takes pieces that it can use from religion.

Just remember though one man's terrorist is another mans Freedom Fighter.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: preslove
If you include christian terrorists and hate groups this is not true. If you put a monetory figure (include medical bills of the injured) on the damages of the Oklahoma City bombing and all the abortion clinics, added to 9/11 result has to dwarf and ecoterrorism. I really think you are exagerating the ELF's activities.

ok small one 30k

ok onother small one. just a tractor but it states since 1997 elf has caused over 100 million in damage.

oh crap i was going to list them but screw it. Do some research.

This link says that the 9-11 attacks did approximately $100 billion in damage, not including people's lives.

1997-2004 is over 7 years. If we say ELF is doing $100 million in damage every 7 years, then they'll equal out with the 9-11 attack in roughly the year 9004. 9-11 was 1000 times more significant than everything ELF has ever done.


sure 9/11 was a lot of damage.

but that was one hit. Over the years elf has hit many times a year. it seems every year 60 minutes or 20/20 does something on them.

They have ruined homes. business and peoples lives also. I'm just amazed that the goverment is not cracking down harder on them.

Since we are in this "war on terror" i would think now would be a good time to do it also.


Yes, that was "one hit." But it cause more damage than ELF will ever, concievably mete out. AND we know that al-Quaida is planning more of these "one hit"s. So, which group should the FBI and CIA devote their scarce resources to stamping out? If you say ELF, please, don't go anywhere near a government position.

so you are saying the goverment can only look at one group at a time?

damn sucks. I guess all other groups get free raign to do what they want eh? bummer!

No, that is not what I'm saying. I know for a fact that the ELF has been infiltrated by the FBI. They keep tabs on them, they are probably right now trying to get enough evidence to indict the people who burned all those hummers. The problem, though, is that the FBI only has so many agents assigned to counter-terrorist operations. This means that there probably are only a few agents assigned to ELF and their ilk. This means that whatever investigation is now going on will continue to do so on a very slow time table.

There are so few agents on ELF duty because, hopefully, most are looking for Al-Quaida cells. This is far more important than protecting hummers and log piles.

Oh, and Mugs. It just isn't as simple as giving money from one agency to another. Alot of it is training agents and dealing with tons and tons of red tape. By the time agents and money from the DEA got to the FBI (would never happen, because the DEA would have a sh!t fit), those agents and that money would probably be reassigned to hunting for al-Quiada.
 
Originally posted by: EXman
Because they are liberals with the ACLU on their side...

personally the ACLU are the biggest Terrorists within our boarders. Trashing the moral fiber of America everyday. Actually they stick up for terrorist if I am not mistaken.

Sounds like you hate christians to me.

Sounds like you are a wing-nut.
 
Lots of misinformation in this thread. In fact the thread title was proven to be incorrect after the first few posts. Is anyone even attempting to know what they are talking about?
 
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