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Non-paywall gift link ^. This makes me sick — republicans in local and state government putting foreign corporations over the futures of citizens in their own states.
How a Saudi firm tapped a gusher of water in drought stricken Arizona
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Non-paywall gift link ^. This makes me sick — republicans in local and state government putting foreign corporations over the futures of citizens in their own states.
BoomerD
No Lifer
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This pisses me off as much...or more:
Surely the America First GOP in AZ will find a way to stop this.
FelixDeCat
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We should restrict land sales to non-Americans and / or restrict the use of essential resources necessary to survive...such as water!
The "if you have enough money America is yours" mentality doesnt work anymore. There are too many people here now and we have to manage resources properly.
The "if you have enough money America is yours" mentality doesnt work anymore. There are too many people here now and we have to manage resources properly.
BoomerD
No Lifer
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I'm in favor of restricting real estate sales in the USA only to US citizens...but that will never get anywhere.
Indus
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Haven't you spent the past 8 years defending just that though???
How Jared Kushner and others gerrymander to sell visas to foreigners — at a steep discount
Trump Bay Street is a model of luxury as well as a model of a loophole U.S. developers use in a controversial citizenship-for-cash program.
www.pbs.org
Trump donors ran $27 million real estate and green card scam: feds
Two major Trump donors from Long Island ran a multimillion-dollar immigration fraud scheme, tricking foreigners into believing they’d get green cards and political access for investing in an …
www.nydailynews.com
Jared Kushner's family criticised for touting cash-for-visas scheme in China
Nicole Kushner Meyer, sister of adviser to Donald Trump, mentions his standing while wooing investors into investments in return for US green cards
Chinese firm promises Trump approved green cards on behalf of Kushner company: report
A Chinese immigration firm is reportedly touting its work with the real estate company owned by the family of President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner to reassure clients…
thehill.com
Trump considers increasing visas for foreign investors
Immigration hardliners oppose expanding a program offering visas to foreign investors — including from China, which is under fire for its early handling of coronavirus.
www.politico.com
BoomerD
No Lifer
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Haven't you spent the past 8 years defending just that though???
How Jared Kushner and others gerrymander to sell visas to foreigners — at a steep discount
Trump Bay Street is a model of luxury as well as a model of a loophole U.S. developers use in a controversial citizenship-for-cash program.
Trump donors ran $27 million real estate and green card scam: feds
Two major Trump donors from Long Island ran a multimillion-dollar immigration fraud scheme, tricking foreigners into believing they’d get green cards and political access for investing in an …
Jared Kushner's family criticised for touting cash-for-visas scheme in China
Nicole Kushner Meyer, sister of adviser to Donald Trump, mentions his standing while wooing investors into investments in return for US green cardswww.theguardian.com
Chinese firm promises Trump approved green cards on behalf of Kushner company: report
A Chinese immigration firm is reportedly touting its work with the real estate company owned by the family of President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner to reassure clients…
Trump considers increasing visas for foreign investors
Immigration hardliners oppose expanding a program offering visas to foreign investors — including from China, which is under fire for its early handling of coronavirus.
That shit should be illegal.
Make America Great Again... by selling to foreign highest bidders.Haven't you spent the past 8 years defending just that though???
How Jared Kushner and others gerrymander to sell visas to foreigners — at a steep discount
Trump Bay Street is a model of luxury as well as a model of a loophole U.S. developers use in a controversial citizenship-for-cash program.
Trump donors ran $27 million real estate and green card scam: feds
Two major Trump donors from Long Island ran a multimillion-dollar immigration fraud scheme, tricking foreigners into believing they’d get green cards and political access for investing in an …
Jared Kushner's family criticised for touting cash-for-visas scheme in China
Nicole Kushner Meyer, sister of adviser to Donald Trump, mentions his standing while wooing investors into investments in return for US green cards
Chinese firm promises Trump approved green cards on behalf of Kushner company: report
A Chinese immigration firm is reportedly touting its work with the real estate company owned by the family of President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner to reassure clients…
Trump considers increasing visas for foreign investors
Immigration hardliners oppose expanding a program offering visas to foreign investors — including from China, which is under fire for its early handling of coronavirus.
Yup. Looks like a weasel. Writes like a weasel too, totally avoiding the main issue and rambling about Arizona economy. https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2015/11/09/saudi-alfalfa-arizona-water/75475074/
FelixDeCat
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Ive never supported any that. Most other countries do not allow you to buy land, but lease it. You own the property but not the land.Haven't you spent the past 8 years defending just that though???
How Jared Kushner and others gerrymander to sell visas to foreigners — at a steep discount
Trump Bay Street is a model of luxury as well as a model of a loophole U.S. developers use in a controversial citizenship-for-cash program.
Trump donors ran $27 million real estate and green card scam: feds
Two major Trump donors from Long Island ran a multimillion-dollar immigration fraud scheme, tricking foreigners into believing they’d get green cards and political access for investing in an …
Jared Kushner's family criticised for touting cash-for-visas scheme in China
Nicole Kushner Meyer, sister of adviser to Donald Trump, mentions his standing while wooing investors into investments in return for US green cards
Chinese firm promises Trump approved green cards on behalf of Kushner company: report
A Chinese immigration firm is reportedly touting its work with the real estate company owned by the family of President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner to reassure clients…
Trump considers increasing visas for foreign investors
Immigration hardliners oppose expanding a program offering visas to foreign investors — including from China, which is under fire for its early handling of coronavirus.
FelixDeCat
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Maybe someday it will. Many states like Florida, Texas, etc. are cracking down on farm sales, etc. or land that is near military installations.
IronWing
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Set up a U.S. registered corporation, done. Using water for cattle feed in the desert is a stupid waste no matter who is doing it.
Yeah because no American has ever done environmentally stupid shit.
SteveGrabowski
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FelixDeCat
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Or bottling tap water and reselling in plastic bottles that go to the landfill. Or growing almonds that are one of most water hungry crops ...and selling them to China. We get no benefit from the depletion of our ground water.
5 everyday foods that are making droughts worse
UNCjigga
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This seems to actually be one of those issues where finger pointing/blaming one political party might be counterintuitive—we should really be focusing on the wealthy landowners/business-owners in the habit of employing lobbyists and buying off politicians for private interests.
I don’t care if it’s alfalfa in Arizona or almonds in California.
I don’t care if it’s alfalfa in Arizona or almonds in California.
Fenixgoon
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skyking
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there are rich river valleys in the PNW that are close to the main highways, and our truck economy has been paving over this good soil wholesale. Now there are acres and acres of tilt up warehouses. The land owners want to reap the profits, but it would take complex government intervention to fix this. It pisses me purple.
The nearby higher areas are deep piles of glacial till rocks and stones and a great place to pave and concrete over.
All of it gets ~40" of rain a year and would grow crops of all sorts, but they pave over the deep soils.
Nobody wants that kind of government interference, so we shoot ourselves in the foot. This shit happens all over.
Google map link:
https://goo.gl/maps/N38ryqEcUGtCCwGu7
Everything between SR167 and the Stuck river to the east was fertile farmland. WTF humans?
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BoomerD
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They did the same thing in central California. Good, fertile soil...if you can get water to it. They build millions of houses, pave over the rest. The land surrounding the central valley...not as fertile or easy to grow in. (rocky soil)
HomerJS
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By voting for it you did. Take responsibility for your actions.
But you vote for people who do. So you're either lying or a moron.
skyking
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Yeah I'm not fingerpointing at anyone but humans.
IronWing
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The Arizona State land Department cancelled the Saudi lease. The stated basis for canceling the lease is pretty thin gruel but may be sufficient to pass court review.
tucson.com
Hobbs defends decision to yank Arizona land lease
Gov. Katie Hobbs says her office will work to get the best use out of state land while protecting Arizona's groundwater.
tucson.com
FelixDeCat
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Good👍The Arizona State land Department cancelled the Saudi lease. The stated basis for canceling the lease is pretty thin gruel but may be sufficient to pass court review.
Hobbs defends decision to yank Arizona land lease
Gov. Katie Hobbs says her office will work to get the best use out of state land while protecting Arizona's groundwater.
kage69
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Grats AZ, you have a real Governor concerned with your wellbeing and future. That's a luxury in most red states.
Kari Lake would have pretended there was nothing wrong, taken some Saudi bribe money, then blamed the problem on environmentalists and the "woke media."
Kari Lake would have pretended there was nothing wrong, taken some Saudi bribe money, then blamed the problem on environmentalists and the "woke media."
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