How A Republican Reacts To ACA

[Newell Steamer]

The honorable U.S. House candidate from Alabama, Will Brooke, guns down the ACA.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/26/alabama-candidate-takes-aim-at-obamacare/?hpt=hp_t3

Whatever was left of it, was then shredded in a wood chipper.

I fear for our corporations the most. What is to stop this maniac from going after Corporate Welfare (aka subsidies)??

Brooke then drives off in truck, displaying a bumper sticker that reads "I prefer the dangers of a limited government!"

I mean, limited government would also mean the stopage of giving millions of tax payer dollars to corporations already making billions in profits. Hell,.. what about the corporations that are in the red?!

Won't someone please think of the job creators?!

 

[rudeguy]

The honorable U.S. House candidate from Alabama, Will Brooke, guns down the ACA.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/26/alabama-candidate-takes-aim-at-obamacare/?hpt=hp_t3

Whatever was left of it, was then shredded in a wood chipper.

I fear for our corporations the most. What is to stop this maniac from going after Corporate Welfare (aka subsidies)??



I mean, limited government would also mean the stopage of giving millions of tax payer dollars to corporations already making billions in profits. Hell,.. what about the corporations that are in the red?!

Won't someone please think of the job creators?!

is there a point to your thread?

 

[rudder]

Ho hum... a politician pandering to constituents... film at 11.

 

[glenn1]

The honorable U.S. House candidate from Alabama, Will Brooke, guns down the ACA.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/26/alabama-candidate-takes-aim-at-obamacare/?hpt=hp_t3

Whatever was left of it, was then shredded in a wood chipper.

I fear for our corporations the most. What is to stop this maniac from going after Corporate Welfare (aka subsidies)??

I mean, limited government would also mean the stopage of giving millions of tax payer dollars to corporations already making billions in profits. Hell,.. what about the corporations that are in the red?!

Won't someone please think of the job creators?!

Democrat Joe Manchin shot a copy of the "cap and trade" bill in 2010, did you complain equally about that?

For your second point, the ACA is big an exercise in corporate welfare as anything the GOP could dream up. Besides, why do you care where the money goes so long as we're "stimulating the economy" and all that? If you support a large social safety net spending then you have little room to complain that some welfare likewise went to someone (or some entity) that you don't care for.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Democrat Joe Manchin shot a copy of the "cap and trade" bill in 2010, did you complain equally about that?

For your second point, the ACA is big an exercise in corporate welfare as anything the GOP could dream up. Besides, why do you care where the money goes so long as we're "stimulating the economy" and all that? If you support a large social safety net spending then you have little room to complain that some welfare likewise went to someone (or some entity) that you don't care for.

It's not a complaint.

It's legitimate worry; who will protect the job creators, with this maniac going around, GUNNING down big government initiatives?!

 

[glenn1]

It's not a complaint.

It's legitimate worry; who will protect the job creators, with this maniac going around, GUNNING down big government initiatives?!

One could argue that such gunning *is* protecting job creators. Alternatively you can take the "glass half-full" view and confidently assert that the Obama economic plan is sufficiently powerful that it will completely overwhelm a headwind such as a Republican opposing a big government initiative and by the time Obama leaves office the only problem America will face is how to spend all the money we'll have .

 

[Newell Steamer]

One could argue that such gunning *is* protecting job creators. Alternatively you can take the "glass half-full" view and confidently assert that the Obama economic plan is sufficiently powerful that it will completely overwhelm a headwind such as a Republican opposing a big government initiative and by the time Obama leaves office the only problem America will face is how to spend all the money we'll have .

Ooooh, it's intelligent gunning!

I get it.

Take away a person's ability to afford life saving healthcare, but, still allow already profitable companies in receiving more money, as you champion "no big government",..

Totally got it. It's not contradictory,.. it's intelligent!

Wow,... I got so hysterical there, I damn near forgot how crafty and smart the right is!! Whew,.. thanks for setting me straight!

 

[glenn1]

Ooooh, it's intelligent gunning!

I get it.

Take away a person's ability to afford life saving healthcare, but, still allow already profitable companies in receiving more money, as you champion "no big government",..

Totally got it. It's not contradictory,.. it's intelligent!

Wow,... I got so hysterical there, I damn near forgot how crafty and smart the right is!! Whew,.. thanks for setting me straight!

What exactly is your point? I get that you're mad at the dude for opposing Obamacare, which not coincidentally forces people to buy from already profitable companies. But it's both a non-sequitur and naive to think we can have a "big government" and provide a social safety net, while at the same time think we can exclude corporations from getting a piece of the pie also. You can't set up a feeding trough containing countless billions and limit it exclusively to those you personally deem worthy. If it offends you so much that both Joe Sixpack and Joe CEO get government payola, then shut off the spigots entirely.

 

[piasabird]

If Obama care is so great make it voluntary.

 

[Newell Steamer]

What exactly is your point?

Our government needs to stop reacting to fears - or, more importantly, doing what a group of fearful people demand they do.

We have become a nation of crying babies;
- I am forced to financially support my children,.. this needs to stop, or our children will detroy this nation!!
- I am forced to contribute money to the very system that benefits me,.. this needs to stop, because I can't create/generate more jobs!!
- I am prevented from forcing my beliefs on someone,.. this needs to stop, because my beliefs will die out!!

It's one thing when a wounded, hurt or incapable person crys for help. But, when the very "uber men" are whining like little shits, it makes me sick.

And, they do it by drumming up support, by creating boogie men, to support their crusades. Or, like this idiot, thump their chests like apes in heat and sling poo.

He can oppose it,.. too bad it's already been passed. It's just sad that theatrics like this is all this bufoon has left,.. some leader he is.

 

[glenn1]

He can oppose it,.. too bad it's already been passed. It's just sad that theatrics like this is all this bufoon has left,.. some leader he is.

Kinda like how the left maintained opposition to laws prohibiting gay marriage even after they passed? Or after the Iraq invasion was a done deal, did you oppose the "theatrics" of Code Pink and others who remained opposed to it as well? Just because ACA passed doesn't mean it's good or that Republicans are wrong to oppose it, even if many of them don't have a better idea to offer.

 

[boomerang]

Our government needs to stop reacting to fears - or, more importantly, doing what a group of fearful people demand they do.

We have become a nation of crying babies;
- I am forced to financially support my children,.. this needs to stop, or our children will detroy this nation!!
- I am forced to contribute money to the very system that benefits me,.. this needs to stop, because I can't create/generate more jobs!!
- I am prevented from forcing my beliefs on someone,.. this needs to stop, because my beliefs will die out!!

It's one thing when a wounded, hurt or incapable person crys for help. But, when the very "uber men" are whining like little shits, it makes me sick.

And, they do it by drumming up support, by creating boogie men, to support their crusades. Or, like this idiot, thump their chests like apes in heat and sling poo.

He can oppose it,.. too bad it's already been passed. It's just sad that theatrics like this is all this bufoon has left,.. some leader he is.

Is the battle being carried out in your brain bigger than the battle that comes out of your mouth? I'm thinking yes.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Just because ACA passed doesn't mean it's good or that Republicans are wrong to oppose it, even if many of them don't have a better idea to offer.

Eh, they are not wrong in opposing it. They are wrong in not offering anything other than it.

Give me an idea, better than ACA, and I'll back it.

ACA is crap - I agree.

It has done nothing for the people in my life. And, it has not improved the quality of life for the people I care for.

But, it works for some. The mother fucker is working; http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/affordable-care-act-is-working-104942.html

formatting mine,..

The right measure of the ACA isn’t whether it avoids political controversy; it’s whether it makes America better by achieving its five most fundamental goals:
1) expanding health-insurance coverage
2) lowering costs
3) promoting fiscal responsibility
4) increasing quality through innovation
5) protecting seniors and delivering peace of mind to American families by guaranteeing essential rights in dealing with insurance companies

And, just because it's not working for me, and I do not like it, I am not going to print out the ACA and take a shit on it and state; "well, I'm done!"

I need to come up with, or support someone, who has a better idea than the ACA.

Where is that idea?? I don't see it. And, it sure as hell isn't coming from guys like this.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Is the battle being carried out in your brain bigger than the battle that comes out of your mouth? I'm thinking yes.

Interesting,.. weren't you the one who was glad a drunk woman looking for help after a drunk driving accident got shot in the face??

 

[shortylickens]

OP is so sarcastic I cant tell what he's really thinking. Must not be too important.

 

[Matt1970]

If I were to do a video it would be of me wiping my ass with it.

 

[boomerang]

Interesting,.. weren't you the one who was glad a drunk woman looking for help after a drunk driving accident got shot in the face??

Nope, not me.

 

[Texashiker]

But, it works for some. The mother fucker is working; http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/affordable-care-act-is-working-104942.html

Really, the aca is working? If anything the aca is going to help trap millions of people in poverty.

The subsidies the aca created is a dis-insensitive to work. It is clearly a dis-insensitive to better yourself.

Why should a mom who is on welfare get a better paying job and lose so much money in welfare, food stamps, medicaid for her kids and subsidies for herself?

Lower income families stand to lose a small fortune in benefits if they try to better themselves.

If the aca is working, why did my health insurance go up 9.1% last year?

If the aca is working, why am I paying $700+ a month to have my family covered?

Instead of getting a better paying job, I would be better off getting a lower paying job and let subsidies make up the difference.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Really, the aca is working? If anything the aca is going to help trap millions of people in poverty.

The subsidies the aca created is a dis-insensitive to work. It is clearly a dis-insensitive to better yourself.

Why should a mom who is on welfare get a better paying job and lose so much money in welfare, food stamps, medicaid for her kids and subsidies for herself?

Lower income families stand to lose a small fortune in benefits if they try to better themselves.

If the aca is working, why did my health insurance go up 9.1% last year?

If the aca is working, why am I paying $700+ a month to have my family covered?

Instead of getting a better paying job, I would be better off getting a lower paying job and let subsidies make up the difference.

As I said, it works for some, not all.

Also, aside from telling me about how you heard of a guy who knew a man who lived next to a family that once met someone that heard of someone who was talking to someone they once knew about how ACA is not agood, do you care to provide some links?

I am not doubting you, because ACA does not work for me. But, just as there are success articles (like what I linked), there have to be failure articles out there as well.

Again, not doubting you (because I am an example),.. but, drop the good old boy herp-a-derping and give us something actual, that counters the Politico article.

 

[Aikouka]

The guy isn't in my district, but I laugh and sigh at the ridiculous levels of pandering in his act. Also, look at that huge stack of wasted paper... reduce, reuse, recycle!

 

[boomerang]

The guy isn't in my district, but I laugh and sigh at the ridiculous levels of pandering in his act. Also, look at that huge stack of wasted paper... reduce, reuse, recycle!

Did you notice when he stepped on a blade of endangered grass species? That looked like a real gas guzzler he was driving too.

 

[Texashiker]

Again, not doubting you (because I am an example),.. but, drop the good old boy herp-a-derping and give us something actual, that counters the Politico article.

The only thing I see in that article that carries any weight at all, is children being able to stay on their parents insurance for a few more years.

Which a lot of insurance companies already did before the aca was even thought of.

The article cites 5 million people have signed up for the aca. How many more could have insurance if the corporate mandate were put into effect?

If the aca works, implement the whole thing.

The obama administration is nit-picking parts of the aca. The part that would truly help working class people, and that is the corporate mandate. But the corporate overlords are not going to allow the corporate mandate to go into effect.

The people and families who truly need help are being screwed over by allowing companies to use welfare as corporate benefits.

 

[Thebobo]

Really, the aca is working? If anything the aca is going to help trap millions of people in poverty.

The subsidies the aca created is a dis-insensitive to work. It is clearly a dis-insensitive to better yourself.

Why should a mom who is on welfare get a better paying job and lose so much money in welfare, food stamps, medicaid for her kids and subsidies for herself?

Lower income families stand to lose a small fortune in benefits if they try to better themselves.

If the aca is working, why did my health insurance go up 9.1% last year?

If the aca is working, why am I paying $700+ a month to have my family covered?

Instead of getting a better paying job, I would be better off getting a lower paying job and let subsidies make up the difference.

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[Newell Steamer]

The only thing I see in that article that carries any weight at all, is children being able to stay on their parents insurance for a few more years.

Which a lot of insurance companies already did before the aca was even thought of.

The article cites 5 million people have signed up for the aca. How many more could have insurance if the corporate mandate were put into effect?

If the aca works, implement the whole thing.

The obama administration is nit-picking parts of the aca. The part that would truly help working class people, and that is the corporate mandate. But the corporate overlords are not going to allow the corporate mandate to go into effect.

The people and families who truly need help are being screwed over by allowing companies to use welfare as corporate benefits.

Yeah, more herp-a-derping,.. move along folks, nothing to see here.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

He is pandering. That's what happens in elections. He is my question what does he propose going back to what we had which almost everyone thought it wad getting too expensive and less consumer friendly? Does he support insurers using more income to corporate bonuses?
What does he propose to fix the problem. Its easy to demolish anything building it is what takes time.