House Votes to Lift Cuba Sanctions
- Thread starter Martin
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Not a bad idea, Cuba can use a good injection of western influence...
such as.... Mcdonalds, Coke, and overweigtness.
such as.... Mcdonalds, Coke, and overweigtness.
Miramonti
Lifer
- Aug 26, 2000
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Cool. Its not a drastic legislation but a step in the right direction. It passed easily too, in the House which has a Republican majority.
Now it goes to the Senate, where they vote on it or a similar version, then they negotiate the two versions if necessary to get the same version passed in both branches, then it goes to the president for signature, which he then in turn Veto's it and the bill is dead in the water.
Unless the senate can re-vote on it and achieve 2/3 majority in favor of it, which would overturn the veto...but this type of majority against a presidents veto is very uncommon.
(i think this is how this works.)
Now it goes to the Senate, where they vote on it or a similar version, then they negotiate the two versions if necessary to get the same version passed in both branches, then it goes to the president for signature, which he then in turn Veto's it and the bill is dead in the water.
Unless the senate can re-vote on it and achieve 2/3 majority in favor of it, which would overturn the veto...but this type of majority against a presidents veto is very uncommon.
(i think this is how this works.)
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Lifer
- Aug 10, 2001
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"When a senator or a representative introduces a bill, he or she sends it to the clerk of his house, who gives it a number and title. This is the first reading, and the bill is referred to the proper committee.
The committee may decide the bill is unwise or unnecessary and table it, thus killing it at once. Or it may decide the bill is worthwhile and hold hearings to listen to facts and opinions presented by experts and other interested persons. After members of the committee have debated the bill and perhaps offered amendments, a vote is taken; and if the vote is favorable, the bill is sent back to the floor of the house.
The clerk reads the bill sentence by sentence to the house, and this is known as the second reading. Members may then debate the bill and offer amendments. In the House of Representatives, the time for debate is limited by a cloture rule, but there is no such restriction in the Senate for cloture, where 60 votes are required. This makes possible a filibuster, in which one or more opponents hold the floor to defeat the bill.
The third reading is by title only, and the bill is put to a vote, which may be by voice or roll call, depending on the circumstances and parliamentary rules. Members who must be absent at the time but who wish to record their vote may be paired if each negative vote has a balancing affirmative one.
The bill then goes to the other house of Congress, where it may be defeated, or passed with or without amendments. If the bill is defeated, it dies. If it is passed with amendments, a joint congressional committee must be appointed by both houses to iron out the differences.
After its final passage by both houses, the bill is sent to the president. If he approves, he signs it, and the bill becomes a law. However, if he disapproves, he vetoes the bill by refusing to sign it and sending it back to the house of origin with his reasons for the veto. The objections are read and debated, and a roll-call vote is taken. If the bill receives less than a two-thirds vote, it is defeated and goes no further. But if it receives a two-thirds vote or greater, it is sent to the other house for a vote. If that house also passes it by a two-thirds vote, the president's veto is overridden, and the bill becomes a law.
Should the president desire neither to sign nor to veto the bill, he may retain it for ten days, Sundays excepted, after which time it automatically becomes a law without signature. However, if Congress has adjourned within those ten days, the bill is automatically killed, that process of indirect rejection being known as a pocket veto."
The committee may decide the bill is unwise or unnecessary and table it, thus killing it at once. Or it may decide the bill is worthwhile and hold hearings to listen to facts and opinions presented by experts and other interested persons. After members of the committee have debated the bill and perhaps offered amendments, a vote is taken; and if the vote is favorable, the bill is sent back to the floor of the house.
The clerk reads the bill sentence by sentence to the house, and this is known as the second reading. Members may then debate the bill and offer amendments. In the House of Representatives, the time for debate is limited by a cloture rule, but there is no such restriction in the Senate for cloture, where 60 votes are required. This makes possible a filibuster, in which one or more opponents hold the floor to defeat the bill.
The third reading is by title only, and the bill is put to a vote, which may be by voice or roll call, depending on the circumstances and parliamentary rules. Members who must be absent at the time but who wish to record their vote may be paired if each negative vote has a balancing affirmative one.
The bill then goes to the other house of Congress, where it may be defeated, or passed with or without amendments. If the bill is defeated, it dies. If it is passed with amendments, a joint congressional committee must be appointed by both houses to iron out the differences.
After its final passage by both houses, the bill is sent to the president. If he approves, he signs it, and the bill becomes a law. However, if he disapproves, he vetoes the bill by refusing to sign it and sending it back to the house of origin with his reasons for the veto. The objections are read and debated, and a roll-call vote is taken. If the bill receives less than a two-thirds vote, it is defeated and goes no further. But if it receives a two-thirds vote or greater, it is sent to the other house for a vote. If that house also passes it by a two-thirds vote, the president's veto is overridden, and the bill becomes a law.
Should the president desire neither to sign nor to veto the bill, he may retain it for ten days, Sundays excepted, after which time it automatically becomes a law without signature. However, if Congress has adjourned within those ten days, the bill is automatically killed, that process of indirect rejection being known as a pocket veto."
Kerouactivist
Diamond Member
- Jul 12, 2001
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I's about time, this is the best way to democratize cuba
I can't wait to go on vacation their I bet flights won't be that much, espically on cuba's national airline safety could be a problem though
I can't wait to go on vacation their I bet flights won't be that much, espically on cuba's national airline
safety could be a problem though
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Lifer
- Aug 10, 2001
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Castro has at best ten more years of life, especially when you consider he is in poor health. Cuba would make a great "Alcatraz" equivalent.
Do you think if we lifted sanctions that Castro would let that affect anything with the citizens of Cuba? The only people who may benefit from sanctions lifted in Cuba would be tourists going there.
Originally posted by: jjsole
Money would be going into their economy. When people go there and spend money (i.e. hotels, shops, food) it provides jobs and puts money into their economy. There isn't a Fidel Castro credit card that tourists only make deposits to when visiting.
Do you really think the people of Cuba would see any more money than they already get? (Which is next to nothing.)
A lot of people already do go to Cuba for vacation and that doesn't seem to change anything much.
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Lifer
- Aug 10, 2001
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Lifer
- Aug 10, 2001
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It seems logical, but I can't think of another group of Americans who are as critical of their country of origin.
What does this have to do with anything?
But in case you didn't notice during the Elian fiasco, Cubans are very outspoken.
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Lifer
- Aug 10, 2001
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My obervation was exactly what you just said: Cuban Americans are very outspoken when it comes to Castro and his policies.
Originally posted by: Vespasian
My obervation was exactly what you just said: Cuban Americans are very outspoken when it comes to Castro and his policies.
And what is your point? What does that have to do with this story at all?
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Lifer
- Aug 10, 2001
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There is something seriously wrong with you. All I did is make a general observation about Cuban Americans and their opinion of Castro. If you're always going act like an ass when you respond to my posts, then don't respond. :frown:Originally posted by: pulse8
And what is your point? What does that have to do with this story at all?Originally posted by: Vespasian
My obervation was exactly what you just said: Cuban Americans are very outspoken when it comes to Castro and his policies.
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