House Republicans Heroically Keep America's Men and Women In the Fight!

comptr6

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WASHINGTON -- The House overwhelmingly defeated on Thursday a nonbinding resolution to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by the end of the year.

The vote, which failed by a margin of 93 to 321, followed a two-hour debate that involved a brief protest and a lengthy discussion of national security and budget cuts. But what surprised some observers is that the bill, authored by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), made it to the House floor at all.

Kucinich's proposed resolution would have invoked the War Powers Resolution and directed President Barack Obama to remove troops from Afghanistan "by no later than the end of the period of 30 days beginning on the day on which this concurrent resolution is adopted," or by no later than Dec. 31 if that proved impossible.

"We are getting a lot of questions about how the Kucinich Resolution came to the House Floor," the press staff of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) tweeted during the debate, pointing inquirers to the House Rules Committee website. Cantor spokeswoman Laena Fallon told The Huffington Post that her office wasn't getting angry responses, just general inquiries about parliamentary process.

One Democratic House staffer told The Huffington Post that Republicans could have stopped the resolution, at least temporarily, by filing a rule to block it. However, Kucinich could then have filed another resolution to be taken up in 15 days. Another Democratic staffer familiar with the matter said the GOP leadership never attempted to block the measure.

Eight Republicans supported the resolution, while 99 Democrats joined the opposition to it. Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) voted "present," explaining in a Facebook post that he agreed with the goals of the Kucinich resolution but believed it used unconstitutional means.

Amash was the only freshman Republican who attended the vote but did not cast a ballot against the resolution. Eighteen House members spoke in favor of the Kucinich measure, and 14 spoke against it.

Supporters of the resolution often invoked a fiscal argument, saying that lawmakers concerned about cutting the federal deficit should look seriously at withdrawing troops. "Overall, government spending has increased 9 percent, 2008 through 2011, but Afghanistan war spending has increased 25 percent," Kucinich said. "You want to save $100 billion? Then vote for this resolution."

Others argued that U.S. national security resources were being ill-used in an unwinnable war, and Rep. Bob Filner (D-Calif.) praised the opportunity to have such a debate. "It's like the 600-pound elephant in the nation, this war has gone on and we never discuss about it," Filner said.

Gen. David Petraeus, who testified before the House and Senate armed services committees this week, was the most-quoted figure by opponents of the Kucinich resolution, who argued that progress is being made in Afghanistan and "cutting and running" would simply embolden the enemy -- akin to years' worth of arguments against redeployment from Iraq.

"I know we cannot afford to fund this war indefinitely, but some think that cutting and running immediately from Afghanistan is a solution," freshman Rep. Tim Griffin (R-Ark.) said. "That's simply not an option. This is a reckless resolution."

Several lawmakers also hit back against the fiscal argument, with Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas) saying, "War is expensive, and it should not be measured in the cost of money, which has been the discussion today."

"I've heard before some of my colleagues who support an American retreat from Afghanistan describe this effort as a fiscal matter," added Rep. Steve Chabot (R-Ohio). "I'd respond to that argument by simply stating, it's not a question of whether we can afford to fund a military presence in Afghanistan -- it's a matter of whether we can afford not to, particularly at this point."


The debate, like the final vote, did not break down strictly along partisan lines. Republican Reps. Jason Chaffetz (Utah), Jimmy Duncan (Tenn.), Walter Jones (N.C.), Ron Paul (Texas) and Dana Rohrabacher (Calif.) all spoke in favor of the resolution, while Democratic Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) spoke against it. The five Republicans were joined in the final vote by Reps. John Campbell (Calif.), Howard Coble (R-N.C.) and Tim Johnson (Ill.).

Kucinich introduced a similar resolution last year, but that one received just 65 votes. Three Republicans -- Chaffetz, Coble and Rohrabacher -- voted against that measure but for the new one.

During Chaffetz's speech Thursday, a protester in the gallery reportedly shouted, "We are the global terrorist nation!"

A February poll by Gallup/USA Today found that 72 percent of Americans support Congress taking up the issue of an accelerated withdrawal from Afghanistan.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/17/afghanistan-withdrawal-resolution-defeated_n_837152.html

Damn the 8 RINOs who supported this cowardly proposal! As the Rep. Chabot said this isn't about the budget, it's about protecting ourselves from terrorists. Terrorists who want to kill everyone of us. Have the libtards already forgotten about 9/11?
 

Red Dawn

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/17/afghanistan-withdrawal-resolution-defeated_n_837152.html

Damn the 8 RINOs who supported this cowardly proposal! As the Rep. Chabot said this isn't about the budget, it's about protecting ourselves from terrorists. Terrorists who want to kill everyone of us. Have the libtards already forgotten about 9/11?
No but the Neocons did when they scaled down their attempt to get Osama Bin Laden and those who perpetrated the attack on 9/11 to go and fuck the dog in Iraq.
 

her209

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/17/afghanistan-withdrawal-resolution-defeated_n_837152.html

Damn the 8 RINOs who supported this cowardly proposal! As the Rep. Chabot said this isn't about the budget, it's about protecting ourselves from terrorists. Terrorists who want to kill everyone of us. Have the libtards already forgotten about 9/11?
Those 100 terrorists in Afghanistan costing us how much per month?
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/president-obamas-secret-100-al-qaeda-now-afghanistan/story?id=9227861
 

theeedude

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Heroically keep other people's children in Afghanistan while they sit in Washington :)
 

comptr6

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nevermind the 100 or so Democrats who voted with the Republicans too.

222 patriotic Republicans voted against it, 8 RINOs voted for it

99 twisted and spiteful libtards voted against it and 85 for it

The Republicans knew which vote was the correct one and all but 3% stood up for American values.

When it comes to the flip flopping libtards there is no surprises here - 85% of them hate our men and women in uniform and want to disgrace them by cutting and running. Cowards!
 

JSt0rm

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222 patriotic Republicans voted against it, 8 RINOs voted for it

99 twisted and spiteful libtards voted against it and 85 for it

The Republicans knew which vote was the correct one and all but 3% stood up for American values.

When it comes to the flip flopping libtards there is no surprises here - 85% of them hate our men and women in uniform and want to disgrace them by cutting and running. Cowards!

owned hahahaha
 

wuliheron

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It's the economy stupid.

They aren't going to bring home a bunch of soldiers who can't find a job at McDonald's and they aren't going to cut off all those contractors selling them guns at inflated prices. The idea as always is to make your opposition pay for balancing the budget, especially when you know it just can't be done.
 

PeshakJang

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The House overwhelmingly defeated on Thursday a nonbinding resolution to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by the end of the year.

So it was basically a meaningless waste of time which would do absolutely nothing, in the middle of trying to deal with a budget that has stalled for over half a year due to the Democrats' decision to not do their job.

End of story.
 

PeshakJang

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222 patriotic Republicans voted against it, 8 RINOs voted for it

99 twisted and spiteful libtards voted against it and 85 for it

The Republicans knew which vote was the correct one and all but 3% stood up for American values.

When it comes to the flip flopping libtards there is no surprises here - 85% of them hate our men and women in uniform and want to disgrace them by cutting and running. Cowards!

Seriously, son, the alt-account is getting old.
 

Nebor

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Our timeline in Afghanistan stretches until 2014 at the earliest, possibly until 2020 in a purely advise & assist role.
 

wuliheron

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Our timeline in Afghanistan stretches until 2014 at the earliest, possibly until 2020 in a purely advise & assist role.


By then something else is sure to turn up. Maybe a ground war in Libya. Deserts are so much easier to deal with jungles like Vietnam.
 

Nebor

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By then something else is sure to turn up. Maybe a ground war in Libya. Deserts are so much easier to deal with jungles like Vietnam.

The US Army & USMC Armor branches would have a field day in Libya.

I'm opposed to the idea of any US involvement in Libya, however.
 

wuliheron

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The US Army & USMC Armor branches would have a field day in Libya.

I'm opposed to the idea of any US involvement in Libya, however.


What's your problem? This isn't some worthless piece of land in Africa. Don't you like money?
 

Nebor

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What's your problem? This isn't some worthless piece of land in Africa. Don't you like money?

It is a worthless piece of land in Africa. The oil is committed to the Europeans. We aren't going to get squat out of it.
 

wuliheron

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It is a worthless piece of land in Africa. The oil is committed to the Europeans. We aren't going to get squat out of it.


You still don't get it. The same international conglomerates own everybody now and if the Europeans don't get oil they'll just have to buy from somebody else and if supplies get tight it raises the prices for everyone. If supplies become tight enough the entire world economy collapses.

Personally I don't mind living off the land, but the average American just isn't willing to go there right now. People will bitch and complain about having to pull somebody else's weight just like with social security or whatever, but the bottom line is they'll go ballistic if they loose their comfy job, Walmart crap, and house.