House Repeals "Stream Rule" Protecting Waterways

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Grooveriding

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America 2017, the Shitshow that keeps on entertaining.

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ch33zw1z

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clean water is overrated. As long as a red state gets fucked by this, I don't give a shit anymore.
 

PokerGuy

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Is it not obvious to you how easily you're manipulated?

You're really fallen for it hook, line and sinker haven't you? I feel bad for you.

After having been lied to so often by CNN with slanted and misleading articles, you'd think you clowns would seek information from a more reputable source. I didn't say this story is false, just want to see it from a reputable source, not just some hysterical lefty perspective.
 

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Wow... so a regulation that hasn't actually been enacted because it was issued in the last 60 days of a lame-duck president is blocked... and we all die? There is no change here. The regulation was likely never even implemented. And if it is was such a good idea, why did Obama wait until right before leaving office to do it? Congressional Review Act. Look it up.

And yes, I used the fake news in the link, and I STILL came up with all this information.
 

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Can we get a perspective from a non fake news source?

Why don't you provide one from a source you deem as not fake news? You honestly think CNN is just pulling it out of thin air? That they didn't actually vote on it?
Let's see a perspective you believe and trust or agree with.
 

PokerGuy

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Wow... so a regulation that hasn't actually been enacted because it was issued in the last 60 days of a lame-duck president is blocked... and we all die? There is no change here. The regulation was likely never even implemented. And if it is was such a good idea, why did Obama wait until right before leaving office to do it? Congressional Review Act. Look it up.

And yes, I used the fake news in the link, and I STILL came up with all this information.

Oh heavens no, you decided to read and think rather than just accept the hysterical headline version??? There's no place for that around here, you're supposed to just read the headline and rage against the orange cheeto guy ;)
 

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Why don't you provide one from a source you deem as not fake news? You honestly think CNN is just pulling it out of thin air? That they didn't actually vote on it?
Let's see a perspective you believe and trust or agree with.

I have no idea if CNN is pulling it out of thin air (I wouldn't put it past them), but it's almost certainly a heavily biased slanted misrepresentation of what's actually going on. See post #9.
 

pauldun170

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Instead of arguing over nonsense put in your heads by Trump's juvenile rambling....


Why not see what the fuss is actually about
https://www.osmre.gov/programs/rcm/streamprotectionrule.shtm
The federal Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement spent nearly the entire Obama presidency working on the Stream Protection Rule, its rewrite of the Stream Buffer Zone Rule from the George W. Bush administration.

The new guidelines stringently define "material damage to the hydrologic balance outside the permit area" that the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act — the guiding law of OSMRE — is designed to prevent.
http://www.eenews.net/stories/1060047395

Arguments against
http://wvpublic.org/post/coal-country-reacts-stream-protection-rule
 
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Wow... so a regulation that hasn't actually been enacted because it was issued in the last 60 days of a lame-duck president is blocked... and we all die? There is no change here. The regulation was likely never even implemented. And if it is was such a good idea, why did Obama wait until right before leaving office to do it? Congressional Review Act. Look it up.

And yes, I used the fake news in the link, and I STILL came up with all this information.

So to be clear, the source was 'fake' but you felt comfortable with using the 'fake' facts in it immediately as soon as they supported what you wanted to think. Despite the source giving you this salient information, you still declared it to be 'fake'.

Lol, you guys are so incredibly easily duped. They say jump, you jump. At this point if I were a member of the conservative media I would be taking bets around the office to see who could come up with the stupidest thing I could get conservatives to believe. That contest would be epic.

As to the article, why does whether or not the regulation has been implemented yet matter as to whether repealing it was a stupid idea?
 

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I have no idea if CNN is pulling it out of thin air (I wouldn't put it past them), but it's almost certainly a heavily biased slanted misrepresentation of what's actually going on. See post #9.

Must maintain bubble at ALL COSTS.

By the way I'm still waiting for that list of acceptable sources from you in regards to studies about media bias. You've had a very long time to come up with a single solitary one but have so far failed. Are you having trouble?
 

PokerGuy

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Must maintain bubble at ALL COSTS.

By the way I'm still waiting for that list of acceptable sources from you in regards to studies about media bias. You've had a very long time to come up with a single solitary one but have so far failed. Are you having trouble?

Why continue to lie when you can just admit you're wrong and move on? I'm still waiting for you to come up with all the vast numbers of sources you have --- go ahead, pick the one you think is most trustworthy. Can't be hard, you claim to have so many sources!
 

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Instead of arguing over nonsense put in your heads by Trump's juvenile rambling....


Why not see what the fuss is actually about
https://www.osmre.gov/programs/rcm/streamprotectionrule.shtm


Arguments against
http://wvpublic.org/post/coal-country-reacts-stream-protection-rule

Looks like there are reasonable arguments for and against, and the regulation had just recently been put into place right before the end of the obummer administration so it could not possibly have had any impact as of yet. So basically, OP was (as expected) hysterical crying about nothing?
 

fskimospy

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Why continue to lie when you can just admit you're wrong and move on? I'm still waiting for you to come up with all the vast numbers of sources you have --- go ahead, pick the one you think is most trustworthy. Can't be hard, you claim to have so many sources!

lol, I literally already did provide you with several sources and you simply declared them biased. That means it's now on you to specify even a single, solitary source you find acceptable. How hard can this be? Do you know how to use google?

We both know you will never do this, I just like making fun of you and how totally incapable you are of accepting facts that tell you things you don't want to hear. Every time you bring up media bias you can be sure that I'll be checking in on your progress here. ;) Someday I hope you are able to master this incredibly easy task.
 

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lol, I literally already did provide you with several sources and you simply declared them biased. That means it's now on you to specify even a single, solitary source you find acceptable. How hard can this be? Do you know how to use google?

How can I possibly pick a source that is valid if I don't know what all your sources are? I already said, I'm not aware of any unbiased source that has come to the conclusion that the main stream media is not biased. You say you have numerous sources that prove it. Well, go ahead then.

Also, why are you trying to derail the thread?

We both know you will never do this, I just like making fun of you and how totally incapable you are of accepting facts that tell you things you don't want to hear. Every time you bring up media bias you can be sure that I'll be checking in on your progress here. ;) Someday I hope you are able to master this incredibly easy task.

Correct, we both know you will never do this, you'll just keep lying about having so many "sources" to back up your ridiculous claims. I'll continue to make fun of you and laugh at you. Some day you will master this easy task :D
 

fskimospy

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How can I possibly pick a source that is valid if I don't know what all your sources are? I already said, I'm not aware of any unbiased source that has come to the conclusion that the main stream media is not biased. You say you have numerous sources that prove it. Well, go ahead then.

If you have kids or have ever watched them you should realize you're acting like a five year old right now. When you say 'do you want a sandwich for lunch' and they say no, and then you say 'ok, how about soup for lunch' and they say no, the logical next question is 'okay, then what do you want?'.

What you're doing right now is exactly what buckshot would do when trying to argue against evolution. He would say 'show me the evidence!', then when we asked him what evidence he would accept he would stubbornly refuse to ever answer. This is because he, just like you, wanted to be sure he had an out so that he could keep on believing that Jesus rode a dinosaur.

Nice job, heir to buckshot. ;)

Also, why are you trying to derail the thread?

I'm simply responding to your critique of the source, which you believed was salient.

Correct, we both know you will never do this, you'll just keep lying about having so many "sources" to back up your ridiculous claims. I'll continue to make fun of you and laugh at you. Some day you will master this easy task :D

I've provided several sources already. You haven't been able to provide even a single, solitary source that you find acceptable. You aren't fooling anyone. I sincerely hope you're just lying to us instead of actually believing what you're saying because if you do that's incredibly pathetic.

Just ONE. I know you can do it. ONE.
 
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Will mostly hurt the coal producing states so enjoy. Everything but met coal is going down anyway so it's basically rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.