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Jaskalas

Jaskalas

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cytg111 said:
An authoritarian democrat? That would be so far left of AOC that i cant materialize it upstairs .. maybe on acid, who knows.
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Liberty and Economic scales are not on the same track. Do not pretend Authoritarians need to be a specific position "Left" or "Right" of AOC or anyone for that matter.
 
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Jaskalas said:
Liberty and Economic scales are not on the same track. Do not pretend Authoritarians need to be a specific position "Left" or "Right" of AOC or anyone for that matter.
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That makes no sense to me. Explain the climate in which a center-right democrat would thrive as an authoritarian ruler. Dude would lose support from the party day 1. But ok, "in theory" ... yet historically we've seen nationalistic fascism and communism tread those waters.. at least the history I am aware of. Educate me.
 
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cytg111 said:
That makes no sense to me. Explain the climate in which a center-right democrat would thrive as an authoritarian ruler. Dude would lose support from the party day 1. But ok, "in theory" ... yet historically we've seen nationalistic fascism and communism tread those waters.. at least the history I am aware of. Educate me.
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You are correct; totalitarian and democratic are considered polar opposites.



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dank69 said:
Didn't have to. They've clearly learned their lesson.
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Yep, he actually thinks Mitch & Friends will act differently next time...that it’ll be in good faith...lol. He’s not ready to destroy tradition, like Mitch ever cared about traditions unless it was to his benefit.
 
cytg111

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So Mitch killed it by pimping out "personal favors". "Personal favor". What the f.... is it almost like they've forgotten the job description?
 
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C'mon Manchin, show some fucking spine. Fuck what you consider the long game, this keeps up there is no long game.

This idiot and Sinema both, how can they be this complacent given the stakes?
 
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cytg111 said:
That makes no sense to me. Explain the climate in which a center-right democrat would thrive as an authoritarian ruler. Dude would lose support from the party day 1. But ok, "in theory" ... yet historically we've seen nationalistic fascism and communism tread those waters.. at least the history I am aware of. Educate me.
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What he is saying is that an authoritarian sees politics as a means to an end. They’ll be the champions of progressive causes if it gets them where they want and as we’ve seen, they’ll happily play the conservative if they need to as well.
 
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Jaskalas

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cytg111 said:
That makes no sense to me. Explain the climate in which a center-right democrat would thrive as an authoritarian ruler. Dude would lose support from the party day 1. But ok, "in theory" ... yet historically we've seen nationalistic fascism and communism tread those waters.. at least the history I am aware of. Educate me.
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Have you seen our periodic postings of political compass?
Helps to clarify the difference between the left/right and up/down concepts.

What I mean is, the use of force is a means to an end. Doesn't matter which end.

You may have a point, as you explained the middle "may" not have the stomach for such things. But being an extremist does not necessarily mean one believes in greater redistribution. It may simply be a social or "moral" crusade where the use of force seems justified. Nothing inherently ties it to far side of the economic scale.
 
cytg111

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Jaskalas said:
Have you seen our periodic postings of political compass?
Helps to clarify the difference between the left/right and up/down concepts.

What I mean is, the use of force is a means to an end. Doesn't matter which end.

You may have a point, as you explained the middle "may" not have the stomach for such things. But being an extremist does not necessarily mean one believes in greater redistribution. It may simply be a social or "moral" crusade where the use of force seems justified. Nothing inherently ties it to far side of the economic scale.
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I get it, in like, theory, yet when I try to play it out, it doesnt compute.
Authoritarian -> singular party rulership, right? Same people on top 20-30-40 years before the next king is "selected". Throughout history power has *always* corrupted, it is gonna descend into oligarchy and nepotism and from there the centrist economic scale is foobar'ed ... The only way mankind have, to my knowledge, EVER been able to counter our corruptible nature is via separation of powers. Without separation, all goes to shit, either to the left or to the right.
 
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nutxo said:
I wanna know why Pelosi waited 3 hours to call in the police...
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Do you always lie or does it only happen when your lips move? Your dumbshit willfully propagandized brain cannot understand that police were already on site before any insurrectionist got to the capitol building.

Fuck off traitorous liar!
 
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brycejones said:
Like mindlessone, nutxo has a very a appropriate user name.
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Yes from the time I lurked here before I started posting I know what he is...and he is nothing but an empty headed sock puppet for the nut-job propaganda machine.
 
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HomerJS said:
Republicans block the Jan 6 commission.
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I keep saying it. This not democrats vs republicans, this is democrats still having morals and a soul vs a religious cult lead by an orange messiah. Mitch McConnell is never going to go up against his god. The January insurrection? Long forgotten according to McConnell. And I give old Mitch credit for his incredible performance after the insurrection. Actually pretending that it bothered him. It never did bother Mitch, we know that. Mitch knows that. Folks, this is a war against a religious cult. The cyber ninjas ballot recount, the insurrection denial, THE BIG LIE, all of it fixed in the minds of the cult as they await the heavens to part and Donald Trump to return in glory to his throne. If you fail to think of it in this way, then you can never understand where they are coming from. Not that anyone would want to understand complete insanity, but it is better to the face facts that they will never falter in their worship of Donald Trump. Their messiah. Everything they say or do is in preparation for the return of the messiah to his throne. Everything!!!!!
 
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nutxo said:
I wanna know why Pelosi waited 3 hours to call in the police...
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I wanna know why people were incited into giving Congresspersons a reason to call the police.
But let me guess, freedom to you means that law and order is for other people, doesn't it?
 
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cytg111 said:
So Mitch killed it by pimping out "personal favors". "Personal favor". What the f.... is it almost like they've forgotten the job description?
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Pubbies always stick together no matter what. Dem's, not soo much.
 
cytg111

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Start collecting kompromat on your neighbors and colleagues before they start collecting it on you. You are gonna need it.
 
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