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Blieb

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http://rhinoshield.net

A couple years ago we saw these guys at a local home show, and I thought it looked really interesting.

Well, we are thinking it's almost time to repaint ... and saw them again at the local home show ... so the guy is coming out to give us an estimate.

Anyone here looked into it or done it?

Basically it's a ceramic coating that they say lasts 25 years. It's expensive (not sure how much) ...

Whatcha think?
 

Mr Pickles

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I don't know, but the first thing I thought was that you were getting the heavy duty truck bed liner stuff and you were going to put it on your house.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
I don't know, but the first thing I thought was that you were getting the heavy duty truck bed liner stuff and you were going to put it on your house.

same.
 

Blieb

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lol ... yeah now that you mention it ... I changed the title ... :)
 

Greenman

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say the price will be near the cost of re-siding your home.
 

sdifox

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I don't see the point. Most people will change taste in that time span and repaint anyway.
 

Blieb

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The sales guy said it costs twice as much as normal house painting.

The rhino site says it costs more along the lines of vinyl siding.

A buddy of mine who is a painter said he has heard it costs up to 10 times the cost of normal house painting.

I can find sales info on how great it is ... and a few horror stories ... but nothing really complete ...
 

Blieb

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Originally posted by: sdifox
I don't see the point. Most people will change taste in that time span and repaint anyway.

The exterior? We are not going to change the exterior color. Now, inside on the other hand ... I can see changing from time to time (though painful and time consuming) ....
 

Blieb

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Bwahahahhahahaa ... 24k for my 1850 sq ft house!!!

But if I sign today, it's only 18k! Super good deal!

/dies
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Blieb
Originally posted by: sdifox
I don't see the point. Most people will change taste in that time span and repaint anyway.

The exterior? We are not going to change the exterior color. Now, inside on the other hand ... I can see changing from time to time (though painful and time consuming) ....

yes, unless you have brick exterior, people do change the colour the house is painted. Unless you got some nazi hoa that stipulates what colour your house has to be.
 

Denithor

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Originally posted by: Blieb
Bwahahahhahahaa ... 24k for my 1850 sq ft house!!!

But if I sign today, it's only 18k! Super good deal!

/dies

And if you wait for them to call you back next week, it might only be 15k or something.


From the website:
Innovative technology combines elastomeric acrylic resins with urethane resins resulting in a flexible but tough surface. This thick rubber-like membrane actually becomes part of the substrate due to excellent adhesion and bonding.

Just so you know - this stuff is going to resemble the pebbly textured stuff they spray in truck beds. Only in a nice color for your home. Will probably look like stucco or something similar.
 

Fayd

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Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
I don't know, but the first thing I thought was that you were getting the heavy duty truck bed liner stuff and you were going to put it on your house.

well, at least then your house is protected ;)
 

IGBT

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With latex I hear the best color is white. anything else becomes a solar mass and soaks up UV and breaks the paint down in a few years.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: IGBT
With latex I hear the best color is white. anything else becomes a solar mass and soaks up UV and breaks the paint down in a few years.
Though just because something appears as a certain color to our limited eyes does not mean it is going to absorb UV.

 

IGBT

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: IGBT
With latex I hear the best color is white. anything else becomes a solar mass and soaks up UV and breaks the paint down in a few years.
Though just because something appears as a certain color to our limited eyes does not mean it is going to absorb UV.


..has nothing to do with eye sight perception. dark colors absorb more UV then white. Look at any solar panel or solar water heater. Their black or near black. Look at solar reflective roof products. Their white or very bright silver.
 

sactoking

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What type of siding do you have on your house? If it's currently vinyl, you don't need or want this.

You know how if you paint out a thin layer of regular latex paint, you can stretch it a little? That's because the latex has a small bit of elasticity to it. Elastomeric products, such as this one, are chemically designed to have greater than normal elasticity. What that means for the consumer is that if you apply an elastomeric coating to a surface prone to cracking (i.e., stucco, wood, or masonry) the coating will stretch some if the substrate expands. The coating will not crack along with the substrate, so the substrate is not exposed to open air and the cracks don't expand as rapidly. Elastomeric coatings are also generally water-resistant/proof up to a certain number of pinpricks per square inch.

Because of the way they are formulated, they are considerably thicker and heavier than traditional latex paint. 5 gallons of elastomeric might go for $120 at contractor pricing ($200 or more retail) where 5 gallons of a good latex exterior would be $60-80 for contractors ($140 retail). Add in the fact that latex paint can typically cover 300 sq.ft/gallon (YRMV due to substrate conditions) and elasto's usually only cover ~80 sq.ft./gallon and the materials costs add up quickly.

Due to the much higher than normal density of elasto, heavy-duty pumps are required to spray the stuff. You need a contractor with a big dog, like a Graco 200, the kind of pump that can handle 4+ guns with 100' of hose each. That pump needs to have just 1 gun with a short hose to get the proper PSI to spray elasto.

One nice thing about elasto is that many brands are rated to handle lower than normal pH levels. This means you can spray some elastomeric coatings on stucco that has cured for less than the required 30 days and not worry about pH burn.

But yeah, now that you know more about elastomeric coatings then you ever wanted to, I would say 'Don't waste your money'. A good exterior coating like Sherwin-Williams A-100 or Superpaint, Kelly-Moore Color Shield, Benjamin Moore Premium Exterior, etc. will do fine (just stay away from Frazee, their stuff is crap).