House moves towards Dictatorship, look to abolish Ethics Rules 12-31-2004

[dmcowen674]

12-31-2004 Republican leaders are considering a change in House ethics rules that could make it harder to discipline lawmakers

WASHINGTON - Republican leaders are considering a change in House ethics rules that could make it harder to discipline lawmakers.

Democrats and government watchdog groups denounced the proposed change.

"It would lower the standard of official conduct, and if that's the case, it would be the first time that it has been done since 1968,and it would be done on a completely partisan basis," said Jennifer Crider, spokeswoman for House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, on Friday.

"Members of the House should be kept to the highest ethical standard, not the lowest"

Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a watchdog group, said the House Republican leaders' proposal "would fundamentally undermine and damage the House ethics rules, and would constitute the biggest backtracking we have ever seen on ethics standards in the House."

If House Republican leaders are allowed to prevail, they will have gutted the single most important ethics standard in the House and turned House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's multiple ethics transgressions into acceptable conduct for all House members," Wertheimer said.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
12-31-2004 Republican leaders are considering a change in House ethics rules that could make it harder to discipline lawmakers

WASHINGTON - Republican leaders are considering a change in House ethics rules that could make it harder to discipline lawmakers.

Democrats and government watchdog groups denounced the proposed change.

"It would lower the standard of official conduct, and if that's the case, it would be the first time that it has been done since 1968,and it would be done on a completely partisan basis," said Jennifer Crider, spokeswoman for House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, on Friday.

"Members of the House should be kept to the highest ethical standard, not the lowest"

Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a watchdog group, said the House Republican leaders' proposal "would fundamentally undermine and damage the House ethics rules, and would constitute the biggest backtracking we have ever seen on ethics standards in the House."

If House Republican leaders are allowed to prevail, they will have gutted the single most important ethics standard in the House and turned House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's multiple ethics transgressions into acceptable conduct for all House members," Wertheimer said.

Those have both houses of Congress, there's no room for ethics. Ethics is "hard work."

 

[Rainsford]

I don't get who supports this, are they idiots? I mean basically the concept is that the standards of conduct for the people that make the laws that goven this country are too high. Are they nuts? These guys are making the laws that govern the conduct of the entire country, they should be held to the highest possible standard. What the HELL is wrong with the Repubicans lately?

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't get who supports this, are they idiots? I mean basically the concept is that the standards of conduct for the people that make the laws that goven this country are too high. Are they nuts? These guys are making the laws that govern the conduct of the entire country, they should be held to the highest possible standard. What the HELL is wrong with the Repubicans lately?

well, you wouldn't expect our elected officials to actually WORK for the people would you? Pretty soon they will have lower standards than McDonalds. It should be easy to get a job in Congress, all you will need is a criminal record

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't get who supports this, are they idiots? I mean basically the concept is that the standards of conduct for the people that make the laws that goven this country are too high. Are they nuts? These guys are making the laws that govern the conduct of the entire country, they should be held to the highest possible standard. What the HELL is wrong with the Repubicans lately?

Clinton could have used this kinda Republican thinking a few years back.

 

[Infohawk]

What's the Republican spin on this garbage?

 

[dannybin1742]

yeah this is biggest load of crap i've ever read, who in thier right mind would support these nuts now, i mean jesus H christ, these people have rocks head, i wonder how much coverage this will get on the news networks

its looking more and more like this

republicans = criminals

tom delay should be in prison for what he has done, how can 59million people be so dumb?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't get who supports this, are they idiots? I mean basically the concept is that the standards of conduct for the people that make the laws that goven this country are too high. Are they nuts? These guys are making the laws that govern the conduct of the entire country, they should be held to the highest possible standard. What the HELL is wrong with the Repubicans lately?

Clinton could have used this kinda Republican thinking a few years back.

Damn right. But Clinton's poor choice to have an affair and lie about it got the Republicans up in arms. You would have thought he was tossing babies into the reflecting pool or something. Now, they think the government needs less ethics, but only because one of their guys was being less than ethical.

See, that's what's bugging me lately. These guys (not all Republicans, but some of them) suddenly want to make all these changes because they benefit them at the moment, not seeming to realize that as soon as they are out of power, those changes will bite them in the ass...hard. It's like they have no view of the big picture and are unable to look past whatever their current, narrow objective is.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't get who supports this, are they idiots? I mean basically the concept is that the standards of conduct for the people that make the laws that goven this country are too high. Are they nuts? These guys are making the laws that govern the conduct of the entire country, they should be held to the highest possible standard. What the HELL is wrong with the Repubicans lately?

Hehe... Well, you voted for an IDIOT as a president eh? I am sure the religious freaks are all backing this plan.

This is almost as bad as saying we didn't go to Iraq because of the OIL. Yeah.... Who is the Idiot now?

The Worst part? You got a WHOLE LOT OF IDIOTS all going to check and cash to get a loan because 3/4's of america has no COMMON SENSE. I swear over half of the country is losing it and has been BUSH WHACKED!

Apply NOW! Trying to generate 80 Billion for 05 '

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't get who supports this, are they idiots? I mean basically the concept is that the standards of conduct for the people that make the laws that goven this country are too high. Are they nuts? These guys are making the laws that govern the conduct of the entire country, they should be held to the highest possible standard. What the HELL is wrong with the Repubicans lately?

Hehe... Well, you voted for an IDIOT as a president eh? I am sure the religious freaks are all backing this plan.

This is almost as bad as saying we didn't go to Iraq because of the OIL. Yeah.... Who is the Idiot now?

The Worst part? You got a WHOLE LOT OF IDIOTS all going to check and cash to get a loan because 3/4's of america has no COMMON SENSE. I swear over half of the country is losing it and has been BUSH WHACKED!

Apply NOW! Trying to generate 80 Billion for 05 '

Hey, *I* didn't vote for the guy 😉

 

[Dissipate]

Politicians? Ethics? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that was good for a laugh.

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
12-31-2004 Republican leaders are considering a change in House ethics rules that could make it harder to discipline lawmakers

WASHINGTON - Republican leaders are considering a change in House ethics rules that could make it harder to discipline lawmakers.

Democrats and government watchdog groups denounced the proposed change.

"It would lower the standard of official conduct, and if that's the case, it would be the first time that it has been done since 1968,and it would be done on a completely partisan basis," said Jennifer Crider, spokeswoman for House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, on Friday.

"Members of the House should be kept to the highest ethical standard, not the lowest"

Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a watchdog group, said the House Republican leaders' proposal "would fundamentally undermine and damage the House ethics rules, and would constitute the biggest backtracking we have ever seen on ethics standards in the House."

If House Republican leaders are allowed to prevail, they will have gutted the single most important ethics standard in the House and turned House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's multiple ethics transgressions into acceptable conduct for all House members," Wertheimer said.

What a sick bunch of fvcken slime. I am salivating to hear the spin on this heaping pile of sh1t.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: KevinH

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
12-31-2004 Republican leaders are considering a change in House ethics rules that could make it harder to discipline lawmakers

WASHINGTON - Republican leaders are considering a change in House ethics rules that could make it harder to discipline lawmakers.

Democrats and government watchdog groups denounced the proposed change.

"It would lower the standard of official conduct, and if that's the case, it would be the first time that it has been done since 1968,and it would be done on a completely partisan basis," said Jennifer Crider, spokeswoman for House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, on Friday.

"Members of the House should be kept to the highest ethical standard, not the lowest"

Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a watchdog group, said the House Republican leaders' proposal "would fundamentally undermine and damage the House ethics rules, and would constitute the biggest backtracking we have ever seen on ethics standards in the House."

If House Republican leaders are allowed to prevail, they will have gutted the single most important ethics standard in the House and turned House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's multiple ethics transgressions into acceptable conduct for all House members," Wertheimer said.

What a sick bunch of fvcken slime. I am salivating to hear the spin on this heaping pile of sh1t.

Notice the neocon silence on this one?

 

[GroundedSailor]

There is a saying, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

What we are seeing here is the corruption of those in power. Republicans currently control the executive and legislative branches, although they do not have absolute control of the legislative, corruption is a gradual process with innocuous beginnings like this one where they want to insulate themselves from accountability of their misuse of power. The issue which maintains and enhances any democracy is accountability of those chosen to be in power. Once you take that out you are giving them a free hand and it's a slippery slope from there on.

Seeing what we saw in the first term of the current administration I wish the 51% who voted them back in power had given some thought to what they were doing.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
There is a saying, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

What we are seeing here is the corruption of those in power. Republicans currently control the executive and legislative branches, although they do not have absolute control of the legislative, corruption is a gradual process with innocuous beginnings like this one where they want to insulate themselves from accountability of their misuse of power. The issue which maintains and enhances any democracy is accountability of those chosen to be in power. Once you take that out you are giving them a free hand and it's a slippery slope from there on.

Seeing what we saw in the first term of the current administration I wish the 51% who voted them back in power ha given some thought to what they were doing.

Nice post. :thumbsup:

 

[beyoku]

but but but.........we need it like this.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well there is a 51% mandate for the Republicans to do whatever they please.

 

[dannybin1742]

still no replies from the neocons on this forum... interesting... i'd like to see their spin

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: dannybin1742
still no replies from the neocons on this forum... interesting... i'd like to see their spin

It's Clinton's fault.

 

[Jhhnn]

Here's the Lame-O spin, in full- not even our resident apologists have the nerve to attempt to justify it...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne...hpost/a37521_2004dec30

Oh, yeh, and send a message to the lesser Repub Reps, too- step out of line, the Bosses come down on you like a ton of bricks...

Ethics? DeLay has your stinkin' Ethics right here, swingin' in his trousers...

 

[Martin]

*still waiting for the spin*

 

[Engineer]

It's the new Mandate. Didn't you get the memo?

 

[rickn]

what's there to spin? they feel proud i'm sure of it -- that the ELECTED folks who make our laws, declare wars, will soon be held to lower standards than a Walmart employee.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: rickn
what's there to spin? they feel proud i'm sure of it -- that the ELECTED folks who make our laws, declare wars, will soon be held to lower standards than a Walmart employee.

Yep.

 

[KevinH]

Bump cause I'm still waiting to hear this one.