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House Ethics Panel Rebukes DeLay Accuser

conjur

No Lifer
http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne..._go_co/ethics_mccarthy
WASHINGTON - The House ethics committee Thursday night turned the tables on Majority Leader Tom DeLay's accuser, rebuking Rep. Chris Bell (news, bio, voting record) for exaggerating misconduct allegations against the GOP leader.

While the complaint by Bell, D-Texas, led to an ethics report that admonished DeLay, Bell nonetheless violated a rule barring "innuendo, speculative assertions or conclusory statements," a committee letter said.

The committee's Republican chairman and senior Democrat used the four-page letter to Bell to warn lawmakers that making exaggerated allegations of wrongdoing could result in disciplinary action against the accuser.

Bell was not disciplined. He lost in a primary earlier this year because of a DeLay-engineered redistricting plan, and will leave Congress when the session adjourns.

In the future, exaggerations and misstatements also could lead to dismissal of a complaint, said the letter from Chairman Joel Hefley, R-Colo., and senior Democrat Alan Mollohan of West Virginia. The panel they lead is formally called the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct.

Bell's complaint was not dismissed, the letter said, because it contained allegations against DeLay, R-Texas, that warranted consideration and because the committee had not previously rejected any complaint for violations of the rule against innuendo and speculation.

The committee concluded in October that DeLay appeared to link political donations to a legislative favor and improperly persuaded U.S. aviation authorities to intervene in a Texas political dispute.

Hefley and Mollohan wrote Bell, "Indeed, it appears there is no purpose for including excessive or inflammatory language or exaggerated charges in a complaint except in an attempt to attract publicity and hence, a political advantage."

The letter said Bell promoted his complaint "by including such excessive or inflammatory language or exaggerated charges in press releases and other public statements."

The letter said the most serious exaggeration was Bell's contention that DeLay violated a bribery law "by soliciting campaign contributions" from a Kansas corporation, Westar Energy, in return for legislative assistance on an energy bill.

"There can hardly be a more serious charge against a public official than that he or she solicited a bribe," the committee letter said. It added that DeLay's actions "did not come even close to supporting this extremely serious claim."

The committee found in October that DeLay "created an appearance" of favoritism when he mingled at a 2003 golf outing with Westar executives just days after they contributed to a political organization associated with DeLay.


Bell's complaint also asserted:

_The majority leader "engaged in a concerted and relentless effort to use the official resources of office" for "blatantly partisan political activities."

The Hefley-Mollohan letter said this broad allegation was not supported by the facts.

_DeLay dispensed special favors to Westar.

The committee said the Bell complaint cited no action taken by DeLay for Westar. The committee findings in the DeLay case did say that Westar was seeking help with legislation at the time of the golf outing.

_DeLay was solely responsible for federal aviation authorities tracking down an airplane in an effort to locate Democratic lawmakers fleeing the state. The legislators left Texas in an effort to thwart state Republican legislators from passing DeLay's redistricting plan.

The letter said it was a misstatement to attribute actions of federal officials solely to DeLay, when the Texas Department of Public Safety also contacted federal aviation authorities.

_DeLay contacted the FBI (news - web sites) in the effort to locate the Texas lawmakers.

The letter said there is no indication that DeLay called the FBI.

In another development, the committee decided to take no action against Rep. Karen McCarthy (news, bio, voting record) after finding that she misused campaign funds for a trip to the Grammy Awards and refused to repay the money.

In recommending no sanctions against the Missouri Democrat, the panel cited her retirement in January and said the Federal Election Commission (news - web sites) could pursue the matter.

"I'm pleased the committee recommended no action, as I know I did nothing wrong," McCarthy said in a statement. "I am confident that based on controlling FEC precedent, my campaign activities at the Grammys (news - web sites) did not violate federal election law."

McCarthy announced her retirement last year following allegations, first reported by The Associated Press, that she improperly used her campaign and people on her House staff for personal benefit, such as a trip to the 2003 Grammy Awards in New York, where she stayed at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel.

Lawmakers are prohibited from using campaign funds for personal spending under the House Code of Official Conduct as well as FEC regulations.

Media reports prompted the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to review McCarthy's case. The panel said she refused to respond to its requests for information about the trip to the Grammys.

"In view of her failure to establish that her trip had `bona fide campaign or political purposes,' we concluded in the middle of this year, and advised Representative McCarthy, that she was required to repay the expenses of that trip to her campaign account using personal funds," the committee said in a statement.

"However, to date she has failed to make the required repayment or even to state her intention to do so," said the statement, issued jointly by Hefley and Mollohan.

"Normally such disregard of committee determinations by a member would warrant the initiation of a formal disciplinary proceeding against the member," the lawmakers said.

They said the panel decided not to pursue disciplinary action because it was impossible to complete before Congress adjourns and McCarthy leaves the House and because the FEC could resolve the matter
I can't wait for someone who's been indicted to start talking and spill the beans (unless they've all been threatened by DeLay and his connections, which wouldn't surprise me one bit.)

This man does NOT deserve to be in our House of Representatives, much less by the leader.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
I can't wait for someone who's been indicted to start talking and spill the beans (unless they've all been threatened by DeLay and his connections, which wouldn't surprise me one bit.)

This man does NOT deserve to be in our House of Representatives, much less by the leader.
Yes, either way, he's wrong. No chance anyone else could be. If he did it, someone will expose him. Unless, of course, he threatened them. Glad you see fit to presume guilt and paint him into a corner where he's wrong either way.

Oh, and did he win his last election? Then I guess he does deserve to be in the House. Next?
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.pbs.org/now/thisweek/index_061104.html

Watch the video, DeLay Incorporated, and tell me you still feel the same way about him.
I don't feel anything about him. I don't even know what the charges against him are. I merely object to your portrayal of the situation where he's damned if he did, damned if he didn't.
So, iow, you're talking out of your ass again? Gotcha.
 
I guess that Rebuking in the Well of the Senate is still more appropriate than Bukakke.
Things may change though, as the GOP tries to become more intimidating.
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.pbs.org/now/thisweek/index_061104.html

Watch the video, DeLay Incorporated, and tell me you still feel the same way about him.
I don't feel anything about him. I don't even know what the charges against him are. I merely object to your portrayal of the situation where he's damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

well, People are innocent until proven guilty, that being said the eidence against the man shows a gigantic pattern of unethical behavior. He is being backed for now and has much dupport, but if the chips fall a certain way, his crurrent friends will become distant for their own political careers
 
Has delay been indicted yet? And does an indictment indicate guilt? On top of that, does associating with people who have been indicted indicate guilt?

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Has delay been indicted yet? And does an indictment indicate guilt? On top of that, does associating with people who have been indicted indicate guilt?
Perhaps we should spend $70 million in a Congressional investigation.
 
Ahh conjur you are no fun! For the rest of you lets play some trivia shall we?

Number of individuals and businesses associated with the ______ machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: = 47

Number of those during ________ term: = 33


Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges during _______ term: = 61

Number of persons in the ______ orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: = 7


Number of persons known to have been murdered who are associated with __________: = 2


Number who have died in plane crashes who are associated with _________: = 11


If you can fill in the blank of this former person in power. You will get a big fat :cookie:

🙂
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Ahh conjur you are no fun! For the rest of you lets play some trivia shall we?

Number of individuals and businesses associated with the ______ machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: = 47

Number of those during ________ term: = 33


Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges during _______ term: = 61

Number of persons in the ______ orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: = 7


Number of persons known to have been murdered who are associated with __________: = 2


Number who have died in plane crashes who are associated with _________: = 11


If you can fill in the blank of this former person in power. You will get a big fat :cookie:

🙂


el Rushbo?


no no Reagon......



Wait, wait...... Nixon......



 
Originally posted by: smashp
well, People are innocent until proven guilty, that being said the eidence against the man shows a gigantic pattern of unethical behavior. He is being backed for now and has much dupport, but if the chips fall a certain way, his crurrent friends will become distant for their own political careers
People are innocent until proven guilty, except in this case. Gotcha.

GenX: Clinton?
 
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: smashp
well, People are innocent until proven guilty, that being said the eidence against the man shows a gigantic pattern of unethical behavior. He is being backed for now and has much dupport, but if the chips fall a certain way, his crurrent friends will become distant for their own political careers
People are innocent until proven guilty, except in this case. Gotcha.

GenX: Clinton?

hey cyclo, i meant he is innocent until proven guilty and his political partners will stick by his side as an innocent man.

that will change if guilt becomes more apparent. then politics as they are, he will have very few that publically support him or will want to be seen with him.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
smashp: :thumbsdown:
Cyclo: :cookie:



damn I knew it was Clinton, but alot of that statement was "el rushbo" nonsence. clinton wasnt the first dirty politician and isnt the Last.

in fact, Its harder to find a clean politician or maybe its just immposible for my cynicism to be broken down

 
I agree it is hard to find a clean politician. But even I was amazed at how the lewinsky trial shielded the Clinton administration from much worse dealings. These other issues of campaign finance issues, dirty business's, people dropping like flies when they are supposed to testify. This is mafia type stuff we are dealing with here.

People say Susan McDougal went to jail to protect the Clintons. After seeing how many people died of suicides, murders, and plane crashes. She probably went to jail to protect herself.

Amazing how she was pardoned by Clinton in the end. I find that a conflict of interest on a grand scale. Dont testify and incriminate me and Ill pardon you in the end.

Obstruction of justice at least.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
I agree it is hard to find a clean politician. But even I was amazed at how the lewinsky trial shielded the Clinton administration from much worse dealings. These other issues of campaign finance issues, dirty business's, people dropping like flies when they are supposed to testify. This is mafia type stuff we are dealing with here.

People say Susan McDougal went to jail to protect the Clintons. After seeing how many people died of suicides, murders, and plane crashes. She probably went to jail to protect herself.

Amazing how she was pardoned by Clinton in the end. I find that a conflict of interest on a grand scale. Dont testify and incriminate me and Ill pardon you in the end.

Obstruction of justice at least.



the admin was shady, and i liked slick willy.

but the nature of our legal system is that clinton is innocent of the charges since guilt was never proven.

If he was as dirty as Many claim he was, it should have been a no brainer to get him.

I feel the truth of the matter is that he wasnt as bad as say rushbo indicates he was, but not 100% innocent. somewhere in the middle. a shade of Grey.

 
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