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cubeless

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
As astounding as I find it that somebody would demand i provide redress for the sins of countrymen who have gone before me, I find it more amazing yet that somebody wouldn't want to.

An apology from someone not actually committing the deed is meaningless.

An apology given to someone not actually suffering the wrong is worthless.

Fern

I wasn't talking about an apology. I used the word redress. Check out what it means.

redress - noun - what moonbeam wears when his blackdress is at the cleaners...

hey, they would all look nice,,, i say give'em all a redress...

 
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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Obama hates the US and whites, and "reparations" would be just the charade one would expect from a well dressed Marxist hack seeking to divide people. Besides if anyone should apoligize it would have to be Democrats since they were the party of slavery (still are in a softer way)

Civil War Harper's Weekly, May 10, 1862

" The slaveholders for many years had worked with the Democratic party. The consequence was that, to secure the unanimous slave section, the Democratic party gradually relinquished all its fundamental principles, and became an association for the propagation and extension of slavery and the annihilation of the safeguards of liberty. The consequence of this in turn was, that as the party left its principles the best Democrats left the party, until at last the Southern leaders stood in open rebellion, and all loyal national Democrats stood against them."


http://www.sonofthesouth.net/l...atic-party-slavery.htm

If you would jump and shit, would your legs get brown? Don't know? Well you finding that out will have a more positive effect on anyones intellect than you posting.

Go the fuck AWAY you nazist piece of shit!
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Obama hates the US and whites, and "reparations" would be just the charade one would expect from a well dressed Marxist hack seeking to divide people. Besides if anyone should apoligize it would have to be Democrats since they were the party of slavery (still are in a softer way)

Civil War Harper's Weekly, May 10, 1862

" The slaveholders for many years had worked with the Democratic party. The consequence was that, to secure the unanimous slave section, the Democratic party gradually relinquished all its fundamental principles, and became an association for the propagation and extension of slavery and the annihilation of the safeguards of liberty. The consequence of this in turn was, that as the party left its principles the best Democrats left the party, until at last the Southern leaders stood in open rebellion, and all loyal national Democrats stood against them."


http://www.sonofthesouth.net/l...atic-party-slavery.htm

If you would jump and shit, would your legs get brown? Don't know? Well you finding that out will have a more positive effect on anyones intellect than you posting.

Go the fuck AWAY you nazist piece of shit!

The guilty always accuse the innocent of what they themselves are. Too bad mere facts disturb you so.




Here's another fact - the first person legally declared a slave was owned by a black man


ANTHONY JOHNSON:

"According to the earliest known court records, slavery was first established in Virginia in 1654, when Johnson convinced the court in Northampton County that he was entitled to the lifetime services of John Casor, also a black man. Claiming that he had been imported as an indentured servant, Casor attempted to transfer what he argued was his remaining time of service to Robert Parker, a white, but Johnson insisted that he "had ye Negro for his life."[1]

The court ruled that "seriously consideringe and maturely weighing the premisses, that the said Mr. Robert Parker most unjustly keepeth the said Negro from Anthony Johnson his master....It is therefore the Judgement of the Court and ordered That the said John Casor Negro forthwith returne unto the service of the said master Anthony Johnson, And that Mr. Robert Parker make payment of all charges in the suit."

The unfortunate defendant in the court action, John Casor, thus became the first individual in Virginia known to be legally declared a slave by the government (before this case legally defined bondage had not yet fully taken hold in Virginia, although it had already by the 1630s in Massachusetts; in Virginia blacks were indentured servants up until slavery gradually took effect)."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...28American_Colonial%29


Obama is a real creepy dude



 

cubeless

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reality is they should hit up the brits and the french... go back to who started this mess...
 

sportage

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Oh.. congress....
This is why their approval rating is like minus 30%.
With high gas, and every other thing hitting the American people,
what does congress spend time on? Slavery issues.

Maybe well intensions, I think they have more pending things to do than
issues back from the 1800's.
Or... is it just possible congress is back logged that far? :Q
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: sportage
Oh.. congress....
This is why their approval rating is like minus 30%.
With high gas, and every other thing hitting the American people,
what does congress spend time on? Slavery issues.

Maybe well intensions, I think they have more pending things to do than
issues back from the 1800's.
Or... is it just possible congress is back logged that far? :Q

Obligatory "but they like their own congressman" apologist bullshit.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sportage
Oh.. congress....
This is why their approval rating is like minus 30%.
With high gas, and every other thing hitting the American people,
what does congress spend time on? Slavery issues.

Maybe well intensions, I think they have more pending things to do than
issues back from the 1800's.
Or... is it just possible congress is back logged that far? :Q

Obligatory "but they like their own congressman" apologist bullshit.

That's not being an apologist, that's being a smart person interpreting the institution of Congress and its relation to public opinion. Congress ALWAYS has low approval ratings (although not normally this low, but sub 30% is hardly unheard of and sub 40% is very common.)

What things like this should do is make you think why people like their congressman but hate congress. Most political scientists that have studied this have found that people dislike the way the rules and structure of Congress operate. There's a reason why there is a famous quote that says "People who enjoy sausages and respect the law should never watch either being made".
 

JD50

Lifer
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sportage
Oh.. congress....
This is why their approval rating is like minus 30%.
With high gas, and every other thing hitting the American people,
what does congress spend time on? Slavery issues.

Maybe well intensions, I think they have more pending things to do than
issues back from the 1800's.
Or... is it just possible congress is back logged that far? :Q

Obligatory "but they like their own congressman" apologist bullshit.

That's not being an apologist, that's being a smart person interpreting the institution of Congress and its relation to public opinion. Congress ALWAYS has low approval ratings (although not normally this low, but sub 30% is hardly unheard of and sub 40% is very common.)

What things like this should do is make you think why people like their congressman but hate congress. Most political scientists that have studied this have found that people dislike the way the rules and structure of Congress operate. There's a reason why there is a famous quote that says "People who enjoy sausages and respect the law should never watch either being made".

Yes, that is being an apologist. Like you said, their approval ratings are rarely this low. We're comparing their approval ratings now, to those in the past. I don't care if people love their congressman so much that they want to meet him in a truck stop bathroom, that doesn't change the fact that congressional approval ratings are at an all time low.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Obama hates the US and whites, and "reparations" would be just the charade one would expect from a well dressed Marxist hack seeking to divide people. Besides if anyone should apoligize it would have to be Democrats since they were the party of slavery (still are in a softer way)

Civil War Harper's Weekly, May 10, 1862

" The slaveholders for many years had worked with the Democratic party. The consequence was that, to secure the unanimous slave section, the Democratic party gradually relinquished all its fundamental principles, and became an association for the propagation and extension of slavery and the annihilation of the safeguards of liberty. The consequence of this in turn was, that as the party left its principles the best Democrats left the party, until at last the Southern leaders stood in open rebellion, and all loyal national Democrats stood against them."


http://www.sonofthesouth.net/l...atic-party-slavery.htm

If you would jump and shit, would your legs get brown? Don't know? Well you finding that out will have a more positive effect on anyones intellect than you posting.

Go the fuck AWAY you nazist piece of shit!

The guilty always accuse the innocent of what they themselves are. Too bad mere facts disturb you so.




Here's another fact - the first person legally declared a slave was owned by a black man


ANTHONY JOHNSON:

"According to the earliest known court records, slavery was first established in Virginia in 1654, when Johnson convinced the court in Northampton County that he was entitled to the lifetime services of John Casor, also a black man. Claiming that he had been imported as an indentured servant, Casor attempted to transfer what he argued was his remaining time of service to Robert Parker, a white, but Johnson insisted that he "had ye Negro for his life."[1]

The court ruled that "seriously consideringe and maturely weighing the premisses, that the said Mr. Robert Parker most unjustly keepeth the said Negro from Anthony Johnson his master....It is therefore the Judgement of the Court and ordered That the said John Casor Negro forthwith returne unto the service of the said master Anthony Johnson, And that Mr. Robert Parker make payment of all charges in the suit."

The unfortunate defendant in the court action, John Casor, thus became the first individual in Virginia known to be legally declared a slave by the government (before this case legally defined bondage had not yet fully taken hold in Virginia, although it had already by the 1630s in Massachusetts; in Virginia blacks were indentured servants up until slavery gradually took effect)."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...28American_Colonial%29


Obama is a real creepy dude

Not really, if i was American i wouldn't vote for him but not for the same reasons you won't, you are a nazi boy, and i really fucking hate that in people.

You're pathetic.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: cubeless
reality is they should hit up the brits and the french... go back to who started this mess...

The Brits and the French?

Ok, how the FUCK does that even make sense. Try Spaniards and the northern Europeans next time shit for brains.

What the fuck do they even teach you poor pre-teens in schools these days?
 
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sportage
Oh.. congress....
This is why their approval rating is like minus 30%.
With high gas, and every other thing hitting the American people,
what does congress spend time on? Slavery issues.

Maybe well intensions, I think they have more pending things to do than
issues back from the 1800's.
Or... is it just possible congress is back logged that far? :Q

Obligatory "but they like their own congressman" apologist bullshit.

That's not being an apologist, that's being a smart person interpreting the institution of Congress and its relation to public opinion. Congress ALWAYS has low approval ratings (although not normally this low, but sub 30% is hardly unheard of and sub 40% is very common.)

What things like this should do is make you think why people like their congressman but hate congress. Most political scientists that have studied this have found that people dislike the way the rules and structure of Congress operate. There's a reason why there is a famous quote that says "People who enjoy sausages and respect the law should never watch either being made".

Yes, that is being an apologist. Like you said, their approval ratings are rarely this low. We're comparing their approval ratings now, to those in the past. I don't care if people love their congressman so much that they want to meet him in a truck stop bathroom, that doesn't change the fact that congressional approval ratings are at an all time low.

I agree, real power is in the hands of the people and when the people don't give a shit... well then you get guys like Bush.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: JD50

Yes, that is being an apologist. Like you said, their approval ratings are rarely this low. We're comparing their approval ratings now, to those in the past. I don't care if people love their congressman so much that they want to meet him in a truck stop bathroom, that doesn't change the fact that congressional approval ratings are at an all time low.

No... it's not. Their approval ratings are rarely this low, but they are often close to this low and it frequently correlates not to the actual business of Congress but to their public visibility.
 

cubeless

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
reality is they should hit up the brits and the french... go back to who started this mess...

The Brits and the French?

Ok, how the FUCK does that even make sense. Try Spaniards and the northern Europeans next time shit for brains.

What the fuck do they even teach you poor pre-teens in schools these days?

germans been bombing your crappy little island again or something? maybe try decaffinated tea or something... and you deny that you dickheads were huge in the slave trade???

just got through reading about this in churchill's history of the english... but i'm just gullible and believe everything i read... sorry if you're still pissed that you couldn't keep the colonies slaves, too...

 

BoomerD

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If there are reparations to be paid, then all the monies should come from the Southern States, since they benefited the most from slavery...AND, they got to keep most of the descendents of those slaves...

I used to have a foreman that had a bumper sticker that said:

"If I'd have known then, what I know now,
I'd have picked my own dammed cotton."

The slave years were IMO, a terrible dark smear on the history of America, BUT, since there are none of those persons who were so enslaved still alive, who are you going to pay? Their descendants?
Hell, many of them have been collecting from the government their entire lives!
Just drive through any ghetto area.
 

RY62

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
If there are reparations to be paid, then all the monies should come from the Southern States, since they benefited the most from slavery...AND, they got to keep most of the descendents of those slaves...

I used to have a foreman that had a bumper sticker that said:

"If I'd have known then, what I know now,
I'd have picked my own dammed cotton."

The slave years were IMO, a terrible dark smear on the history of America, BUT, since there are none of those persons who were so enslaved still alive, who are you going to pay? Their descendants?
Hell, many of them have been collecting from the government their entire lives!
Just drive through any ghetto area.

If we're going to pay the descendants, how are we going to prove they are descended from slaves? If they are descended from slaves but, by now, also descended from slave owners, do they pay or get paid?

Noone in my known family history ever owned any slaves. I, personally, don't owe apologies or reparations for any thing to do with slavery or Jim Crowe laws. If the government or individuals descended from slave owners want to apologize, good for them. Lord knows there are plenty of things for which most governments should apologize.

I don't have a problem if the government wants to apologize but reparations will be a whole other issue. If they try that shit I believe race relations are going to take some giant leaps backwards in a big hurry.

We can't change what happened over a hundred years ago but we, (whites, blacks, browns, whatever), can take resposibility for what we do now. To me, that means treating each other with respect and living our lives in a manner that's worthy of respect.
 

classy

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
I don't think anyone alive today can demand an apology for slavery, nor apologize for slavery.

I did not own slaves. If people once related to me did, it was not my choice. I should not have to pay random people that did not experience any form of slavery anything.

Reparations are bullshit.

Really.........

My one grandfather was killed a couple of years before I was born. My relatives say he was beaten up by 3 white men till he was unconcious, he never woke up. No one was ever arrested. My other grandfather spent 5 years in prison, for a crime he said he never did. My father spent most of his school years in a segregated school. There were not even enough school books. My dad said the bathrooms and water fountains were so dirty he said he would wait to go home. Anyone who thinks blacks over the age 60 didn't suffer immensely under racism and Jim Crow is a complete and utter fool. And damn skippy they are owed something.
 

classy

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And another thing, these things didn't happen a 100 years ago, not even 50 years ago. Hell they still sign a bill every 25 years allowing blacks to have the right to just vote.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
reality is they should hit up the brits and the french... go back to who started this mess...

The Brits and the French?

Ok, how the FUCK does that even make sense. Try Spaniards and the northern Europeans next time shit for brains.

What the fuck do they even teach you poor pre-teens in schools these days?

germans been bombing your crappy little island again or something? maybe try decaffinated tea or something... and you deny that you dickheads were huge in the slave trade???

just got through reading about this in churchill's history of the english... but i'm just gullible and believe everything i read... sorry if you're still pissed that you couldn't keep the colonies slaves, too...

Son, if you have no answer, then just don't answer, this is just pathetic.
 

cubeless

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
reality is they should hit up the brits and the french... go back to who started this mess...

The Brits and the French?

Ok, how the FUCK does that even make sense. Try Spaniards and the northern Europeans next time shit for brains.

What the fuck do they even teach you poor pre-teens in schools these days?

germans been bombing your crappy little island again or something? maybe try decaffinated tea or something... and you deny that you dickheads were huge in the slave trade???

just got through reading about this in churchill's history of the english... but i'm just gullible and believe everything i read... sorry if you're still pissed that you couldn't keep the colonies slaves, too...

Son, if you have no answer, then just don't answer, this is just pathetic.

you accuse me of a non answer, eh? that is quite a pithy rejoinder you supplied...

and i'm not your son, limpdick... maybe next time you get passed for over major (or whatever would have come after captain in your ever-so-capable service) you can go back to birmingham and get that mall security job you aspire to so that you have a little time to read your own history...
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I'm all in favor of reparations for slavery. I think we should pay everyone who was brought to this country as a slave, or born into slavery $10000. BUT, only to that person, not to any ancestors. After all, if they themselves weren't slaves, we don't owe them anything.

What about segregation?

What about it? They were free to leave at anytime...

Jesus fucking christ.

Are you people really this moronic? Yeah, some poor black family is going to be able to (or have the patience to) move out of the country during a racially repressive time. Not only that, but that it's the acceptable fix for the issues that the majority caused in the first place. Let's not fix it for our fellow human beings or admit fault, just tell them to leave if they don't like it! PROBLEM SOLVED. No, dumbshit, problem not solved. Well... Maybe for you because you're an uncaring son of a bitch. Not solved for them, though. They're still poor, and now they've gotta rebuild whatever shit life they had back in the country to which their family was originally forced.

You're just precious!
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
reality is they should hit up the brits and the french... go back to who started this mess...

The Brits and the French?

Ok, how the FUCK does that even make sense. Try Spaniards and the northern Europeans next time shit for brains.

What the fuck do they even teach you poor pre-teens in schools these days?

germans been bombing your crappy little island again or something? maybe try decaffinated tea or something... and you deny that you dickheads were huge in the slave trade???

just got through reading about this in churchill's history of the english... but i'm just gullible and believe everything i read... sorry if you're still pissed that you couldn't keep the colonies slaves, too...

Son, if you have no answer, then just don't answer, this is just pathetic.

you accuse me of a non answer, eh? that is quite a pithy rejoinder you supplied...

and i'm not your son, limpdick... maybe next time you get passed for over major (or whatever would have come after captain in your ever-so-capable service) you can go back to birmingham and get that mall security job you aspire to so that you have a little time to read your own history...

Of fucking course you are not my son, it's very clear you're not my son, i'm smarter than fuck and you are dafter than sheit.

I got a paycheck that any Major or CEO would dance around, but in my crew, if you go beyond Captain you are not in the field, so while i have been offered the higher ranks, when i am done here, and trust me, we will be done here, i am taking the offer at home.

I just don't get why i would go to Birmingham when i and my family live in Sheffield, maybe you thought that is the same place... ahhhaha, you Americans and geography, but please hush, not even retards make such obvious mistakes.

BTW, don't worry about my pension, i will be making more a month than most kae in a year.

 

cubeless

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
reality is they should hit up the brits and the french... go back to who started this mess...

The Brits and the French?

Ok, how the FUCK does that even make sense. Try Spaniards and the northern Europeans next time shit for brains.

What the fuck do they even teach you poor pre-teens in schools these days?

germans been bombing your crappy little island again or something? maybe try decaffinated tea or something... and you deny that you dickheads were huge in the slave trade???

just got through reading about this in churchill's history of the english... but i'm just gullible and believe everything i read... sorry if you're still pissed that you couldn't keep the colonies slaves, too...

Son, if you have no answer, then just don't answer, this is just pathetic.

you accuse me of a non answer, eh? that is quite a pithy rejoinder you supplied...

and i'm not your son, limpdick... maybe next time you get passed for over major (or whatever would have come after captain in your ever-so-capable service) you can go back to birmingham and get that mall security job you aspire to so that you have a little time to read your own history...

Of fucking course you are not my son, it's very clear you're not my son, i'm smarter than fuck and you are dafter than sheit.

I got a paycheck that any Major or CEO would dance around, but in my crew, if you go beyond Captain you are not in the field, so while i have been offered the higher ranks, when i am done here, and trust me, we will be done here, i am taking the offer at home.

I just don't get why i would go to Birmingham when i and my family live in Sheffield, maybe you thought that is the same place... ahhhaha, you Americans and geography, but please hush, not even retards make such obvious mistakes.

BTW, don't worry about my pension, i will be making more a month than most kae in a year.
smarter than fuck... that's powerful...

it was already pretty obvious from your sig that you are delusional, but this certainly proves it... go back and burn up a little more of that local hooch and beat your chest for a while so you can go to bed and dream of empire lost some more... gotta recharge those batteries with something...

 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: brxndxn
I don't think anyone alive today can demand an apology for slavery, nor apologize for slavery.

I did not own slaves. If people once related to me did, it was not my choice. I should not have to pay random people that did not experience any form of slavery anything.

Reparations are bullshit.

Really.........

My one grandfather was killed a couple of years before I was born. My relatives say he was beaten up by 3 white men till he was unconcious, he never woke up. No one was ever arrested. My other grandfather spent 5 years in prison, for a crime he said he never did. My father spent most of his school years in a segregated school. There were not even enough school books. My dad said the bathrooms and water fountains were so dirty he said he would wait to go home. Anyone who thinks blacks over the age 60 didn't suffer immensely under racism and Jim Crow is a complete and utter fool. And damn skippy they are owed something.

While I agree (and have said so before) the way black people in this country were treated was atrocious. Slavery was a horrible stain on the history of this great country. In many parts of the country today, blatant racism still exists today.
Is it right? Was it right what your grandparents (and their grandparents before them) had to endure? HELL NO!
But do they deserve any reparations for it? HELL NO

Are we going to start paying reparations to the Irish who were treated like shit when they arrived in this country? How about the Chinese who built much of the western railroad system? Again, what about the Native Americans who had their land stolen from them, were massacred, men, women, and children? Do you really think Black people had it worse than the "Indians?" AFAIK, they were never subject to genocide.

http://www.lcsc.edu/elmartin/h...ring%202005/Delema.htm

The only reason the "Indians" weren't turned into slaves is because they couldn't be. It was tried again and again, and they killed their enslavers and/or escaped every time it was tried.
If any group of people in this country deserve reparations, it's the various Indian Tribes. They got far worse than any other ethnic group in this country's history.
Can you imagine the outcry if we had a "Bureau of African-American Affairs?" How about a "Bureau of Jewish Affairs?" Yet the Native Americans STILL have to deal with a Bureau of Indian Affairs...that has robbed them blind for decades and decades. (the last number was over $58 billion dollars owed to the tribes per US treaties and promises)

http://www.indiantrust.com/ind...=482&Month=6&Year=2008






Originally posted by: manowar821
Jesus fucking christ.

Are you people really this moronic? Yeah, some poor black family is going to be able to (or have the patience to) move out of the country during a racially repressive time. Not only that, but that it's the acceptable fix for the issues that the majority caused in the first place. Let's not fix it for our fellow human beings or admit fault, just tell them to leave if they don't like it! PROBLEM SOLVED. No, dumbshit, problem not solved. Well... Maybe for you because you're an uncaring son of a bitch. Not solved for them, though. They're still poor, and now they've gotta rebuild whatever shit life they had back in the country to which their family was originally forced.

You're just precious!



Hey dumbass, need batteries for your sarcasm meter?

Am I an uncaring son of a bitch? According to my wife, YES I am.
I still think the idea of reparations to the descendants of slaves is a terrible idea.
 
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Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: cubeless
reality is they should hit up the brits and the french... go back to who started this mess...

The Brits and the French?

Ok, how the FUCK does that even make sense. Try Spaniards and the northern Europeans next time shit for brains.

What the fuck do they even teach you poor pre-teens in schools these days?

germans been bombing your crappy little island again or something? maybe try decaffinated tea or something... and you deny that you dickheads were huge in the slave trade???

just got through reading about this in churchill's history of the english... but i'm just gullible and believe everything i read... sorry if you're still pissed that you couldn't keep the colonies slaves, too...

Son, if you have no answer, then just don't answer, this is just pathetic.

you accuse me of a non answer, eh? that is quite a pithy rejoinder you supplied...

and i'm not your son, limpdick... maybe next time you get passed for over major (or whatever would have come after captain in your ever-so-capable service) you can go back to birmingham and get that mall security job you aspire to so that you have a little time to read your own history...

Of fucking course you are not my son, it's very clear you're not my son, i'm smarter than fuck and you are dafter than sheit.

I got a paycheck that any Major or CEO would dance around, but in my crew, if you go beyond Captain you are not in the field, so while i have been offered the higher ranks, when i am done here, and trust me, we will be done here, i am taking the offer at home.

I just don't get why i would go to Birmingham when i and my family live in Sheffield, maybe you thought that is the same place... ahhhaha, you Americans and geography, but please hush, not even retards make such obvious mistakes.

BTW, don't worry about my pension, i will be making more a month than most kae in a year.
smarter than fuck... that's powerful...

it was already pretty obvious from your sig that you are delusional, but this certainly proves it... go back and burn up a little more of that local hooch and beat your chest for a while so you can go to bed and dream of empire lost some more... gotta recharge those batteries with something...

My sig is from a song your 12 year old arse has never heard, it's funny because you are so fucking stupid.

Don't stop now, write some more stupid shit, i need the laugh.
 
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: brxndxn
I don't think anyone alive today can demand an apology for slavery, nor apologize for slavery.

I did not own slaves. If people once related to me did, it was not my choice. I should not have to pay random people that did not experience any form of slavery anything.

Reparations are bullshit.

Really.........

My one grandfather was killed a couple of years before I was born. My relatives say he was beaten up by 3 white men till he was unconcious, he never woke up. No one was ever arrested. My other grandfather spent 5 years in prison, for a crime he said he never did. My father spent most of his school years in a segregated school. There were not even enough school books. My dad said the bathrooms and water fountains were so dirty he said he would wait to go home. Anyone who thinks blacks over the age 60 didn't suffer immensely under racism and Jim Crow is a complete and utter fool. And damn skippy they are owed something.

While I agree (and have said so before) the way black people in this country were treated was atrocious. Slavery was a horrible stain on the history of this great country. In many parts of the country today, blatant racism still exists today.
Is it right? Was it right what your grandparents (and their grandparents before them) had to endure? HELL NO!
But do they deserve any reparations for it? HELL NO

Are we going to start paying reparations to the Irish who were treated like shit when they arrived in this country? How about the Chinese who built much of the western railroad system? Again, what about the Native Americans who had their land stolen from them, were massacred, men, women, and children? Do you really think Black people had it worse than the "Indians?" AFAIK, they were never subject to genocide.

http://www.lcsc.edu/elmartin/h...ring%202005/Delema.htm

The only reason the "Indians" weren't turned into slaves is because they couldn't be. It was tried again and again, and they killed their enslavers and/or escaped every time it was tried.
If any group of people in this country deserve reparations, it's the various Indian Tribes. They got far worse than any other ethnic group in this country's history.
Can you imagine the outcry if we had a "Bureau of African-American Affairs?" How about a "Bureau of Jewish Affairs?" Yet the Native Americans STILL have to deal with a Bureau of Indian Affairs...that has robbed them blind for decades and decades. (the last number was over $58 billion dollars owed to the tribes per US treaties and promises)

http://www.indiantrust.com/ind...=482&Month=6&Year=2008






Originally posted by: manowar821
Jesus fucking christ.

Are you people really this moronic? Yeah, some poor black family is going to be able to (or have the patience to) move out of the country during a racially repressive time. Not only that, but that it's the acceptable fix for the issues that the majority caused in the first place. Let's not fix it for our fellow human beings or admit fault, just tell them to leave if they don't like it! PROBLEM SOLVED. No, dumbshit, problem not solved. Well... Maybe for you because you're an uncaring son of a bitch. Not solved for them, though. They're still poor, and now they've gotta rebuild whatever shit life they had back in the country to which their family was originally forced.

You're just precious!



Hey dumbass, need batteries for your sarcasm meter?

Am I an uncaring son of a bitch? According to my wife, YES I am.
I still think the idea of reparations to the descendants of slaves is a terrible idea.

What about the Ricks?

You're obviously know more about it than i do, and i acknowledge that, i'm just asking for your opinion on this.