HOT! Sharp PG-A10X LCD Portable Projector $999 at Costco

BiggieC

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You can turn your entire wall into a TV screen with this thing. I saw it at the Costco in San Diego, might pick it up and try it out for awhile. If I dont like it, Costco has the least hassle return policy of any place I know. The image quality was quite good, although i couldnt tell for sure since the store was fairly bright where they had it playing on a piece of cardboard. Review of Product
 

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I would say no, bussiness projectors typically focus on brightness at the cost of picture quality, contrast and color accuracy. Plus I did not see component inputs and no Froudja 2200 chip. Also if you are patient the x1 can be had for 850-900 on sale. If you are into lcd the sanyo plv-z1 is only about 100 dollars more than this anyway.
 

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with costcos return policy, you could use it until the bulb burns out and then return it if you dont want to spend teh 300 bux to replace it.
 

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Originally posted by: BiggieC
You can turn your entire wall into a TV screen with this thing. I saw it at the Costco in San Diego, might pick it up and try it out for awhile. If I dont like it, Costco has the least hassle return policy of any place I know. The image quality was quite good, although i couldnt tell for sure since the store was fairly bright where they had it playing on a piece of cardboard. Review of Product

what is its native resolution?

edit: n/m - it's xga

anyone know if they have them near San Francisco?

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they have 9 at the Novato, ca store and 8 at the Richmond, ca store!
 

BiggieC

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what is its native resolution?

edit: n/m - it's xga

anyone know if they have them near San Francisco?

detailed info

they have 9 at the Novato, ca store and 8 at the Richmond, ca store!
So whats the verdict on this thing, is it better than the x1, does xga mean it is hdtv compatable. I dont know anything about projectors, but teh display they had at costco looked awesoem. I guess i could pick it up and try it out, if i dont like it, back it goes.

 

kassaam

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450:1 Contrast ratio is a big red flag that this would not be ideal for home theater use.
 

dude8604

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Yes its hdtv compatible.

specs:

Sharp Notevision PG-A10X Projector Specifications
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MSRP (USD) : $ 2,250
Brightness (Lumens) : 1300 ANSI
Contrast: ANSI: n/a
Full On/Off: 450:1
Weight: 6.4 lbs.
Size (inches) (HxWxD) : 3.2 x 11.7 x 9.0
Throw Dist (feet) : 5.1 - 32.3
Image Size (inches) : 40.0 - 300.0
Lens: Focus:
Manual
Zoom: Manual, 1.20:1
Optional Lenses: No
Digital Zoom: Yes
Keystone Correction: Digital
Lens Shift: No
Compatibility: HDTV:
1035i,1080i,720p
EDTV/480p: Yes
SDTV/480i: Yes
Component Video: Yes
Video: Yes
Digital Input: No
Personal Computers: Yes
Networking: Wired: No
Wireless: No
Warranty: 3 Years
Lamp: Type:
165W SHP
Life: 2000 hours
Quantity: 1
Display: Type:
0.8" TFT LCD (3)
Native: 1024x768 Pixels
Maximum: 1400x1050 Pixels
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (XGA)
Performance:
H-Sync Range: 15.0 - 70.0kHz
V-Sync Range: 43 - 85Hz
Pixel Clock: 108 MHz max
Speakers: 1.0W Mono
Max Power: 240W
Voltage: 100V - 240V
FCC Class: A
Audible Noise: 35.0 dB
Special: Economy Mode Lamp
Status: Shipping
First Ship: Jan 2003

 

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Better in some regards, worse in others.

It's probably a little bit brighter. You won't have any problems with rainbows with LCD's. The colors should be a little better, probably most noticably in the reds. The higher resolution will be nice, of course, but mainly for high definition feeds.

The contrast is not nearly as good, so the shadow detail, black levels, and such will be a lot worse. The screendoor effect will be a lot more noticable because of the lower pixel fill ratio

Costco does have a nice return policy.
 

CaptainPete

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The main differences:

The Sharp is brighter (1300 vs 800 lumens) and higer resolution (1024x768 vs 800x600).

The X1 has higher contrast (rated 2000:1 (more like 800:1) vs 450:1) and has a very good deinterlacer (Faroudja DCDi based, unknown on the Sharp).

The Sharp is LCD based, whereas the X1 is a single DLP with a 2x colorwheel. The main disadvantage of the 2x colorwheel is that you may see `rainbows' (quick flashes of primary colors) on quickly moving high contrast parts of the picture. The Sharp dosen't have that problem because it's got 3 LCDs and no colorwheel.

Hmm...the X1 has a 4000 hour bulb life; the review for the Sharp says 2000-4000 hours. They both have an optical zoom lens, which is definetely a plus. Both have a 3 year warranty out of the box, but until the end of the month InFocus is extending the X1's to 5 years.

Sounds like a decent projector. The only thing that's a downer is the contrast, so blacks may not be super-black. But it's bright enough that you should be able to use it in a room that's got some light. XGA for that price is pretty killer too. =)
 

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so would it be okay for home theater use? how bad is the contrast? what exactly does contrast do?
 

CaptainPete

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Originally posted by: dude8604
Originally posted by: kassaam
450:1 Contrast ratio is a big red flag that this would not be ideal for home theater use.

what should it be ideally?

The contrast is just how much of a difference there is between jet `black' and full-on `white'. The more contrast, the more subtle shading differences you can see and the `blacker' black can be. This is especially helpful if you watching a scene that's predominantly one shade (dark or light). There's the danger of the picture looking washed-out.

However, people use the Epson PowerLite S1 for home theatre and the Sharp kicks it's butt all over the place (brighter, higher resolution, better contrast (slightly, 450:1 vs 400:1), quieter, longer bulb life (w/eco mode)), about the same price, etc). Actually, the NEC VT46 is also only about 400:1...

The main `home theatre' projectors in the same sort-of price range (the Sanyo PLV-Z1 and the Panasonic PT-L300U) have contrast ratios of 800:1 and 700:1. Their replacements that are just comming out (the PLV-Z2 and the PT-L500U) are both at 1300:1. But they're quite a bit more expensive (~$1100 for the Z1, $1700 for the 300U and just under $2000 for the new ones, which aren't out yet).

Personally, I'd say go for it! If it looks washed-out and you can't stand the picture, then take it back to Costco and look into one of the others. But if you do like it, then you've saved yourself at least $100. =)
 

CaptainPete

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Ok, since I'm in the market for a projector right now (especially an LCD one; I got an X1 from Dell, but can't stand the rainbows!), I went to Costco to check it out. The thing is REALLY solid and looks great! They had a couple, so I got one to see if it was good enough.

Well, I brought it home and it definetely dosen't quite live up to the X1. =( I think that I probably would have been reasonably happy with it if I hadn't just spent a week or so staring at the X1. So, it's going back. I think that this would make a killer projector for a computer and presentation, but it's not so hot for video unless you're running a progressive component video stream (ok, interlaced component dosen't look all that bad, SVideo sucks though). You're also going to want a grey screen to try and increase the black levels. The higher resolution did the trick for screen-door though, I couldn't see it, even sitting about 1x the screen width.


steve

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Here's the review I just posted on projectorcentral:

Personal Experience
I got this due to it's great price/performance and build quality. This thing looks and feels completely solid, and the warranty is amazing: 3 years with 2 years of sharp `express repair', which they claim 24 hours turnaround. For an XGA projector like this for ~$1000 I couldn't resist.

In relation to the Infocus X1, the picture definetely looks more `washed out'. However, there are NO rainbows! =) If I could live with the rainbows though, the contrast and picture of the X1 are much better for video.

Deinterlacing is nowhere near as good (as expected, considering the DCDi in the X1). The S-video connection was almost unwatchable, but the picture through the component connection is very good/clear. Sharp dosen't include the VGA<->component adapter though, so you'll have to get one of those, but it'll be worth it! Another `must' is a progressive video source, along with a grey screen to try and improve contrast.

The manual zoom is very nice, bulb life is great in ECO mode (which looks better anyway and cuts down on the noise). Mine came with a carrying case, which was nice. Unlike the X1 there are two `feet' on the front for adjustments, along with a flip-down bar in the back to raise it up.

Progressive component imput from my Xbox looked great; very clear. 720p was scaled and looked slightly soft, but overall was very good.

Problems
Component imput sometimes has trouble telling between basic 480p and 640x480. If your colors are all messed up and you've got a dark bar that moves up and down the screen, then got and change the mode. My Xbox looked absolutely horrible until I set it to 480p. Didn't have any problem with 720p though, although I did have to manually switch between RGB and Component mode on the VGA port (if you're running progressive component and the screen is green, then it's in RGB mode).
 

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Thanks for the review. So the x1 is probably better for Satellite TV watching, but the sharp works best with a progressive scan DVD player with component video. If you had an HDTV reciever and feed, do you think the x1 would have the look of an HDTV plasma or front projection TV, or would tehy be better?? I think i might pick up teh Sharp this weekend just to try it out.
 

BiggieC

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Picked this thing out this afternoon, i got the last one. Watching dvd movies with the s-video is amazing, particularly computer animated movies like monsters inc. The picture was crystal clear, and that was just on my flat white painted living room wall. I hooked up my DirecTivo reviever as well using s-video, and the quality wasnt that great. You could see "screendooring" only if you got to within a foot or two of the wall, otherwise you cant even notice, and there is NO rainbow effect. i am going to pick up a component video adapter tomorrow so i can get the most out of my progressive scan dvd player. So far i am very impressed. I wasnt planning on keeping the thing, but i think i might have a hard time taking this thing back. My poor wallet.
 

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Yup, this projector has no rainbows, since it's got 3 LCD, unlike the InFocus X1 that's got a single DLP and a colorwheel. I'm warming up to mine...the S-Video connection is really quite good, just not as good as the component input. =)

One other thing that was impressive: NO DEAD/STUCK PIXELS and no convergence problems as far as I can tell. Very nice.

If I could stand the rainbows I think that I'd go with the X1 though (as a note, most people (60% or so it's claimed) don't ever see rainbow artifacts, or see them infrequently...so really you need to `demo' the projector yourself. Best Buy should take a return within 14 days easy, and InFocus has a special 10 day demo program). I did an A-B comparison last night between the two (projected from the same video source, but on different walls). The A10X is noticably brighter than the X1, but the contrast just isn't quite as good. Pixelation was very similar actually; neither bothered me much at all unless I really blew up the image. The A10X throws a bigger picture than the X1 and should be really sweet for computer gaming due to the higher native resolution.

Oh, check out the `screens' forum on www.avsforum.com and search for `DIY screen' or `Parkland pastics alternative'. There's this white sheet of MDF made by a company called Do-Able (product #63036) sold in 4x8' sheets at Home Depot in different thicknesses (I've got 1/8", but I've seen 3/8" and heard that they've got 1/4"). Anyway, it's only about $14 and it works great as a screen! Just make sure that you check it out for scratches or other defects. HD will also will do 2 cuts for free, so you can get them to chop it down so that it fits in your car/house better.
 

BiggieC

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Originally posted by: CaptainPete
Yup, this projector has no rainbows, since it's got 3 LCD, unlike the InFocus X1 that's got a single DLP and a colorwheel. I'm warming up to mine...the S-Video connection is really quite good, just not as good as the component input. =)

One other thing that was impressive: NO DEAD/STUCK PIXELS and no convergence problems as far as I can tell. Very nice.

If I could stand the rainbows I think that I'd go with the X1 though (as a note, most people (60% or so it's claimed) don't ever see rainbow artifacts, or see them infrequently...so really you need to `demo' the projector yourself. Best Buy should take a return within 14 days easy, and InFocus has a special 10 day demo program). I did an A-B comparison last night between the two (projected from the same video source, but on different walls). The A10X is noticably brighter than the X1, but the contrast just isn't quite as good. Pixelation was very similar actually; neither bothered me much at all unless I really blew up the image. The A10X throws a bigger picture than the X1 and should be really sweet for computer gaming due to the higher native resolution.

Oh, check out the `screens' forum on www.avsforum.com and search for `DIY screen' or `Parkland pastics alternative'. There's this white sheet of MDF made by a company called Do-Able (product #63036) sold in 4x8' sheets at Home Depot in different thicknesses (I've got 1/8", but I've seen 3/8" and heard that they've got 1/4"). Anyway, it's only about $14 and it works great as a screen! Just make sure that you check it out for scratches or other defects. HD will also will do 2 cuts for free, so you can get them to chop it down so that it fits in your car/house better.


Did you get the cord that allows you to connect the three ends of a componant video source, (progressice scan dvd player) to the 15 pin input on the back of the sharpprojector? I went to best buy and frys to tray and get one, but neither could find it in the store. was wondering if it would make a big difference.
 

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Hi. i got this to use /w my desktop computer. I need a splitter b/c it doesn't have any rgb-out. What is the splitter called? RGB video splitter? and where can I get it?
 

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I just watched "28 days later" on this projector. The picture quality was incredibly terrible. I've rewatched it on my LCD display but it seems okay... Is it just my projector or the Sharp PG-A10X? Or is it the characteristic of an LCD display? I did watch some DVDs (like "Matrix Reloaded", "Equiribrium", "Evil Dead 2") via RGB/composite port, they're picture quality was pretty good.
 

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sergio2003, I know this seems kinda obvious, but have you seen 28 Days Later before? If you haven't, you might not get the fact that it was shot almost entirely on prosumer DV equipment, and so shouldn't be used as any sort of visual benchmark. If all your hollywood movies like the Matrix, etc look fine, then you just picked the wrong movie to watch :)
 

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If you want to see the true clarity that this thing is capable of, use the composite conection, and play a computer animated flick like toy story, monsters inc, shrek, etc. I was amazed at the picture quality and clarity. And, really, 28 days later was a crappy film by crappy british filmakers using cheap equipment. There is no way to make that picture look good, or the moive for that matter. I found it to be highly overrated.
 

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Originally posted by: BiggieC
If you want to see the true clarity that this thing is capable of, use the composite conection

Composite connection = worst quality

component > S-Video > composite