Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Lemon law
I argue that it proves no such thing. It simply means that the Taliban is making no painful mischief inside of the tribal areas of Pakistan.
bullshit. I highly doubt that ANY of those included in the poll were from the frontier region itself; therefore, you can
not draw any direct correlation with the poll results and the behavior of the Taliban.
Nice fucking try. ( Totally wrong palehorse, the last time the US military made incursions into the tribal areas of Palistan, ALL the local tribes rallied around the Taliban and vowed to resist any US incursions. )
And partly by implication, its points out the the US occupation of Afghanistan will fail if our definition of success becomes taking out the Taliban.
Eradication of the Taliban remains 50% of the objective. Always has been, always will be. Every last one of those fuckers needs to die. ( Funny palehorse, its becoming their goal that every one of you fuckers have to die. You are only outnumbered something like a thousand to one )
no exceptions. (If you say so Palehorse, after all you are stateside---its the people there that will have to do the dying )
In case we do not remember its was Al-Quida and not the Taliban who struck us on 911.
We only went after the Taliban when they refused our demand to turn over Ossama Bin Laden. While it is now suspected that a good part of the Al-Quida leadership now shelters
somewhere inside of the tribal areas of Pakistan, NO ONE can be really sure.
I'm actually 100% sure.
That said, I'm glad that AQ drew our attention to the evil of the Taliban. Had we not been hit by AQ on 9/11, we'd probably never have begun the honorable work of eradicating the Taliban from the face of the planet. ( You only awoke to the fact that the Taliban were nuts
after 911? I knew they were many fruitloops shy of a full bowl in 1995. )
It's on the very short list of good things that have derived from the attacks on 9/11...( We derived all the wrong lessons from 911 )
And with or without the presence of top AL-Quida leadership, Al-Quida is active in many countries all over the globe. And even if we can exterminate the entire Taliban movement,
unless we get the top Al-Quida leadership, it seems to me, we would be accomplishing nothing.
I'd prefer we destroy both, but idiots like you won't let us go in and do so. ( Excuse me palehorse, neither GWB or Musharrif consult me at all in making their decisions. I am simply a voice of reality when you are not. )
Because the Taliban is a regional movement tied to just that region, and Al-Quida
is a global movement with global goals. And even if the US can establish military hegemony over the tribal regions of Pakistan, by the time that goal is even in sight, the Al-Quida leadership will have long before found new secret refuges.
...and we'll follow them there if we have to. ( Only if you know where they are---you don't know where they are now and are unlikely to j=know where they go. )
One of the biggest mistakes during the last 30 years was sitting idly by while various terrorist groups set up camps all over the world. We knew where they were, and we didnt take them out. So now we're paying the price... ( So you advocate taking out anyone who does not sing God Bless the USA?? You are now talking a huge and worse yet growing group of entire nations. Talk about biting off more than you can chew )
The only sad part is that clowns like you STILL wont let us take out those camps... it's fucking disgusting. ( See my earlier comment, it ain't me babe, talk to GWB, even GWB says no )
bah...