Hot off the presses! Exercise may ward off weight gain!

Bateluer

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/28/study.biking.weight/index.html?hpt=Sbin

Wow . . . brilliant study. Why would you bike for just 5 minutes though? That's barely enough time to get out of the subdivision. I don't see biking for 30 minutes as an insurmountable challenge even for an obese person, so long as they aren't bedridden.

iking for as little as five minutes a day can help women minimize weight gain as they enter middle age, especially if they're overweight to begin with, a new study suggests.

The study followed more than 18,000 premenopausal women between the ages of 25 and 42 for 16 years. During that time, the women gained an average of about 20.5 pounds.

Women who started biking for just five minutes a day gained about 1.5 fewer pounds over the course of the study than similar women who didn't take up biking, the researchers found. Women who increased their daily biking by 30 minutes during the study kept even more weight off, gaining about 3.5 fewer pounds than those whose biking habits stayed the same.

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"Bicycling is an answer to weight control," says the lead author of the study, Dr. Anne Lusk, Ph.D., a research fellow in nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health, in Boston. "Walking is not necessarily an answer, unless the person is walking briskly."

Indeed, Lusk and her colleagues found that women who increased the time they spent walking briskly by 30 minutes per day during the study gained about four pounds less than their peers who didn't increase their walking. (A "brisk" pace is three miles per hour or more.) On the other hand, women who only walked slowly did not manage to prevent any weight gain.

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Women who were overweight or obese at the start of the study experienced even better results than normal-weight women when they increased their daily physical activity. Overweight women who biked for 30 extra minutes per day over the course of the study gained about seven pounds less than those who didn't, for instance.

The findings should encourage overweight women to not give up on exercise, says Dr. Suzanne Steinbaum, D.O., director of Women and Heart Disease at Lenox Hill Hospital, in New York City. "People tend to say, 'I'm too fat. I can't do it. It's too difficult.' A study like this reminds them not to give up. Do something."

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The study appears this week in the Archives of Internal Medicine. Previous research has shown the weight benefits of daily walking, but few studies have focused specifically on biking and none have compared walking with biking.

"A lot of information on physical activity provided to women is very general, encouraging daily activity, but not specifically what kind," says Keri Gans, a spokesperson for the American Dietetic Association. "This study encourages an activity that is not expensive and that almost all women can easily engage in. And if a woman is presently a walker, it's good to know that she must pick up her pace."

Biking and walking are easier than many other forms of exercise to incorporate into everyday life, Lusk points out. "[They] can be a routine part of the day, so you can get your physical activity as a normal part of the day," she says.

The study participants were all nurses and are part of a larger, national study on health and lifestyle that began in 1989. Women with physical problems that make regular exercise difficult were excluded from the current study, as were women who reported chronic health conditions such as heart disease, diabetes, or cancer.

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At the start of the study, half of the participants reported walking slowly, 39 percent said they walked briskly, and 48 percent said they biked (including working out on a stationary bike).

By 2005, the average physical activity had increased slightly but remained very low overall. Participants walked briskly for just one hour per week, on average, and biked for only about 18 minutes per week. Meanwhile they sat around the house for about 2.5 hours a day.

Current guidelines recommend that adults get at least 30 minutes of moderate-intensity exercise on most days of the week, a goal that many women in the study appear to be well below.

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Individuals can't bear all of the blame for that inactivity, Lusk and her colleagues suggest. Their physical surroundings may also be partly responsible.

Although some cities and towns have encouraged walking and biking (by adding sidewalks and bike lanes, for instance), the U.S. remains a "car-centric nation," they write.

Nine percent of commuters in the U.S. walk to work and just 0.5 percent bike, according to data cited in the study. By contrast, in the Netherlands, where the roads are more bike-friendly, 22 percent of commuters walk to work and 27 percent bike.

"We need to provide the infrastructure or facilities so that more people could comfortably bicycle," Lusk says. "In the U.S., the emphasis has been on the walking environment and not on the bicycling environment."
 

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I agree, riding to work is so much better than being stuck in traffic! Bike lanes a go go.
 
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I wouldn't call gaining 17-19 pounds instead of 20.5 "minimizing" weight gain, especially if you are overweight to begin with. Want some real weight loss advice? Don't eat like a fat person.
 

Borealis7

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exercising make you lose weight! who knew!?

i'll remember that in the next life when i'll be a menopausal woman.
 

mrjminer

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Weight studies are inherently flawed, regardless. Everyone has a different metabolism, and everyone is going to burn different amounts of calories doing identical activities. Additionally, the amounts of calories burned are going to vary day-by-day, dependent upon endless factors.
 
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Zebo

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Just get rid of climate control you'll lose a lot of weight as body has to expend a lot more energy to maintain body temp whether hot or cold.

Exercise OTOH is good for a lot more than weight loss. I have not been sick in 9 years. Not had a headache in about 7. Feel like I have more energy than 10 years ago when I was a bar hoping couch potato. Can go to sleep in 20 seconds where before I was drinking to NyQuil and melatonin to get to bed. Fights heart disease, depression, insomnia and many other things.
 

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A huge fatty in my subdivision has beeb biking VERY SLOWLY over the last year but reasonable distances for his speed and mrsskoorb says he has lost weight. Unlike running (why they make biggest loser fatties run I have no idea, hello joint f**kery; running is a terrible way to lose weight if you're morbidly obese) it should be fine for an obese person.
 

Bateluer

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Weight studies are inherently flawed, regardless. Everyone has a different metabolism, and everyone is going to burn different amounts of calories doing identical activities. Additionally, the amounts of calories burned are going to vary day-by-day, dependent upon endless factors.

The point I was trying to make is that the article presents these findings as if they are new, revolutionary information, when in fact, its very very old information. If you exercise, you will burn calories. You may burn a different amount than I doing the same exercise for the same amount of time, but we'll both burn calories. And, if we both consume less calories than we burn, we will both lose weight. Nothing flawed with the study, aside from a massive waste of money concluding something that's been known for thousands of years.

Just get rid of climate control you'll lose a lot of weight as body has to expend a lot more energy to maintain body temp whether hot or cold.

Exercise OTOH is good for a lot more than weight loss. I have not been sick in 9 years. Not had a headache in about 7. Feel like I have more energy than 10 years ago when I was a bar hoping couch potato. Can go to sleep in 20 seconds where before I was drinking to NyQuil and melatonin to get to bed. Fights heart disease, depression, insomnia and many other things.

Definitely true.
 

Zebo

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A huge fatty in my subdivision has beeb biking VERY SLOWLY over the last year but reasonable distances for his speed and mrsskoorb says he has lost weight. Unlike running (why they make biggest loser fatties run I have no idea, hello joint f**kery; running is a terrible way to lose weight if you're morbidly obese) it should be fine for an obese person.

A morbidly obese person can't run their heart would explode. They need to strap HRM on and walk pace HRM sets for them in zone 3 or 4. But nothing is like running/walking fast. Anyone who has tried the whole bike thing vs. running knows there is no comparison of calories burnt/time. Running is simply the most efficient way to lose. Maybe swimming but you can't do that just anywhere anytime and it's hard to hear HRM under water to know if you need to pick up pace or slow down.
 
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mrjminer

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The point I was trying to make is that the article presents these findings as if they are new, revolutionary information, when in fact, its very very old information. If you exercise, you will burn calories. You may burn a different amount than I doing the same exercise for the same amount of time, but we'll both burn calories. And, if we both consume less calories than we burn, we will both lose weight. Nothing flawed with the study, aside from a massive waste of money concluding something that's been known for thousands of years.

All studies relating to weight-loss are completely pointless because, as you said, the only thing that matters is burning more calories than you take in.

I was just adding in that there is no way to really determine how much better an activity is or how much weight can be lost by certain activities because bodies are not 100% consistent.
 
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ZOOYUKA

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I love how they are all gaining weight, but not as fast if they exercise. Maybe they should do a study to see if eating healthier will fight off weight gain also.
 

Zebo

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All studies relating to weight-loss are completely pointless because, as you said, the only thing that matters is burning more calories than you take in.

I was just adding in that there is no way to really determine how much better an activity is or how much weight can be lost by certain activities because bodies are not 100% consistent.

The only ground breaking studies I've seen in the last 10 years are the climate control studies ....everyone knows it's calories in vs. calories out probably forever when chief of clan started getting fat when all foods were brought to him and he sat all day.
 

PricklyPete

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Stupid ass studies. People need to stop eating shit. Your weight is 90% eating. My wife and I went to an ice cream parlor for a treat the other day. I would say 95% of the people who came in (and it was packed) were morbidly obese. I'm not talking slightly overweight...they all were REALLY overweight. They had no business being at an ice cream parlor at their weight...let alone ordering the huge servings they were eating. I felt horrible for a ~10 year old boy who's grandmother had taken him. She was sitting there while he (HUGELY overweight) was eating more ice cream than the total amount of food I had consumed the whole day.

A desert is a "treat"...something you should only do on a rare occasion. Not a part of your daily intake.
 

Zebo

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If they got HR to about 155 for an hour a day it would not matter. You ever seen a football team eat?
 

PingSpike

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I wouldn't call gaining 17-19 pounds instead of 20.5 "minimizing" weight gain, especially if you are overweight to begin with. Want some real weight loss advice? Don't eat like a fat person.

Sorry, they hired the same guys to do this study as they use to balance the US budget. Failing slower is the new winning!
 

yllus

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That's actually sort of incorrect. It helps, but it's not the primary driver to maintaining a healthy weight.

Edit: Oh, I didn't get the implied sarcasm/criticism of the original post. In any case, the below might be an interesting read to somebody.

TIME.com - Why Exercise Won't Make You Thin

One of the most widely accepted, commonly repeated assumptions in our culture is that if you exercise, you will lose weight. But I exercise all the time, and since I ended that relationship and cut most of those desserts, my weight has returned to the same 163 lb. it has been most of my adult life. I still have gut fat that hangs over my belt when I sit. Why isn't all the exercise wiping it out?

It's a question many of us could ask. More than 45 million Americans now belong to a health club, up from 23 million in 1993. We spend some $19 billion a year on gym memberships. Of course, some people join and never go. Still, as one major study — the Minnesota Heart Survey — found, more of us at least say we exercise regularly. The survey ran from 1980, when only 47% of respondents said they engaged in regular exercise, to 2000, when the figure had grown to 57%.

And yet obesity figures have risen dramatically in the same period: a third of Americans are obese, and another third count as overweight by the Federal Government's definition. Yes, it's entirely possible that those of us who regularly go to the gym would weigh even more if we exercised less. But like many other people, I get hungry after I exercise, so I often eat more on the days I work out than on the days I don't. Could exercise actually be keeping me from losing weight?

The conventional wisdom that exercise is essential for shedding pounds is actually fairly new. As recently as the 1960s, doctors routinely advised against rigorous exercise, particularly for older adults who could injure themselves.

Today doctors encourage even their oldest patients to exercise, which is sound advice for many reasons: People who regularly exercise are at significantly lower risk for all manner of diseases — those of the heart in particular. They less often develop cancer, diabetes and many other illnesses. But the past few years of obesity research show that the role of exercise in weight loss has been wildly overstated.

"In general, for weight loss, exercise is pretty useless," says Eric Ravussin, chair in diabetes and metabolism at Louisiana State University and a prominent exercise researcher. Many recent studies have found that exercise isn't as important in helping people lose weight as you hear so regularly in gym advertisements or on shows like The Biggest Loser — or, for that matter, from magazines like this one.

The basic problem is that while it's true that exercise burns calories and that you must burn calories to lose weight, exercise has another effect: it can stimulate hunger. That causes us to eat more, which in turn can negate the weight-loss benefits we just accrued. Exercise, in other words, isn't necessarily helping us lose weight. It may even be making it harder.

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So why does the belief persist that exercise leads to weight loss, given all the scientific evidence to the contrary? Interestingly, until the 1970s, few obesity researchers promoted exercise as critical for weight reduction. As recently as 1992, when a stout Bill Clinton became famous for his jogging and McDonald's habits, the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition published an article that began, "Recently, the interest in the potential of adding exercise to the treatment of obesity has increased."

The article went on to note that incorporating exercise training into obesity treatment had led to "inconsistent" results. "The increased energy expenditure obtained by training may be compensated by a decrease in non-training physical activities," the authors wrote.
 

JockoJohnson

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A huge fatty in my subdivision has beeb biking VERY SLOWLY over the last year but reasonable distances for his speed and mrsskoorb says he has lost weight. Unlike running (why they make biggest loser fatties run I have no idea, hello joint f**kery; running is a terrible way to lose weight if you're morbidly obese) it should be fine for an obese person.

Those producers are missing a golden opportunity by not having them use bikes. The comedy factor alone of a bike crumpling under their weight would be enormous (no pun intended).
 

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Those producers are missing a golden opportunity by not having them use bikes. The comedy factor alone of a bike crumpling under their weight would be enormous (no pun intended).
Put them on mountain bikes with slicks and have them race down very technical trails?
 

Hacp

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A huge fatty in my subdivision has beeb biking VERY SLOWLY over the last year but reasonable distances for his speed and mrsskoorb says he has lost weight. Unlike running (why they make biggest loser fatties run I have no idea, hello joint f**kery; running is a terrible way to lose weight if you're morbidly obese) it should be fine for an obese person.

How does Mrs. Skroob know this?
 
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A huge fatty in my subdivision has beeb biking VERY SLOWLY over the last year but reasonable distances for his speed and mrsskoorb says he has lost weight. Unlike running (why they make biggest loser fatties run I have no idea, hello joint f**kery; running is a terrible way to lose weight if you're morbidly obese) it should be fine for an obese person.

they don't make tires and frames strong enough for obese people.
 

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they don't make tires and frames strong enough for obese people.
Seen it with my own eyes, the guy has not broken his bike and he must weigh--or at least started--an honest 300lbs.

HACP, she just has noticed with her eyes and memory, I presume.