This is not a rip on AMD systems, but it is pretty well known that some of their chips are rather power-hungry, and since they can be o/ced pretty easily (clock as well as multiplier) the whole issue may get extrapolated, therefore:
I think powerwise the dell systems are well designed - their components and mobo are not stressed (e.g overclocked) and in addition to their own developers they do get prime attention by their vendors - even the XPS systems use only a 250W supply - so I would assume that the 300W requirement is simply a way of the card manufacturer to beat down on customers that are running less mature (e.g. overclocked and/or AMD) rigs that will hick-up whenever a new component that needs power is introduced.
Do you really think those Dell engineers are going to give you an inadequete power supply that will lead to RMAs and turnaround time as soon as you drop in a new video card or hard drive?
You are not smarter than them.
You are not smarter than them.
I think that's exactly what I was pointing out - moreover even if the dell enineers were to let it happen - the manufacturer of the P/S would not want to deal with that kind of fiasco...
The effectiveness of power supplies is based upon the number of amps supplies to both the 3.3, 5, and 12V rails.
As far as I know, hard drives/optical drives use the 12V rail. I think most AGP cards are now using 3.3V or lower. PCI mainly draws on 3.3V now, and not 5v. So if a power supply that is 300+ watts had low 3.3 and 12V currents, and a lot to the 5V rail which to my knowledge is hardly used anymore, it's essentially an inflated number that you will never use.
So anyways I gave in to this. Did anyone else? $700 shipped including tax with the Geforce FX5200, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB HD and 3 GHz P4 w/ HT. Took just the basic keyboard/mouse/CDROM and WinXP Home, I will put in my CDRW and DVD+-RW when I get it.
I agree that wattage alone is an insufficient way of specifiying a P/S's capabilities.
The 5V rail is used for the processor though. In particular in the days of AMD overclocking (a T-Bred running at 1.9V might draw close to 100W) a high ampereage on that rail would indicate that the overall voltage will not drop too much, while the processor is overclocked by raising voltage. This may become important again for the energy hungry prescotts.
MrDudeMan
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i thought people like you didnt exist anymore. you cant take 25db? so does it annoy you when you breathe?
i cant get this to be less than 700 dollars...i am getting 739 and that is with a LOT of customization, not just continue, continue, add to cart...wtf?
make sure you only have the basic one year warranty checked - recently Dell defaults to 2 or 3 - that might explain the difference
Dell is known for having very good support so if you lose a psu. You should have no problem getting it replaced. You need to keep in mind that PSU rating are generally bogus. Many companies rate their units on max wattage while some rate conservatively.
And just to clarify, I am almost 100 postive that current Athlon and Pent. 4 use the 12 volt rail.
And just to clarify, I am almost 100 postive that current Athlon and Pent. 4 use the 12 volt rail.
If I'm not mistaken, this deal is still good!! The free upgrades are good until midnight Dell time (CST). It's not too late to jump on this deal!
Does anyone know where I can find detailed documentation on the Dell Dimension 8300 systems ... like technical details on the motherboard, case etc.
I have been looking at Dell's site for sometime now and I can't seem to find it ...
I have been looking at Dell's site for sometime now and I can't seem to find it ...
Not sure if this will help but if you look for the SC400 threads, there is a great faq provided by one of the SC400 owners. Since it uses the same mobo many things applying to the SC400 may apply to the 8300 as well - check it out
wow, i didn't know Dell will charge tax(if yo'ure in a state that gets charged tax) on the shipping as well. That's kind of stupid.
rh71
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Yeah we jumped on it too... with an added floppy, it came to $669 + tax = $725 and it arrived in 3 days (good job Dell). I wanted one for myself, but alas... I need to save money for my wedding no matter what.
I thought getting married was supposed to be happy times.
How often do deals on high-end systems come around ? Hopefully another after Sept.
I thought getting married was supposed to be happy times.
How often do deals on high-end systems come around ? Hopefully another after Sept.
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