Hosting rates

[lupin]

How much would an OC3 based hosting cost ? OC12 ?

I know that you can get T3s for <$20/mth. Just want to get a comparison.

 

[tontod]

T3 hosting for $20/month? I dont think so. T1 ranges around $200/month or greater. OC3 hosting will be insanely expensive, only businesses can afford it. Not sure if I made a mistake, but I'm pretty sure.

 

[tomcat]

I think he's talking about website hosting, not the having the actual line for internet access.

 

[lupin]

uh.. yes, website hosting.

 

[hippy]

Ok... I left the other side of my brain on the other side of the room.

Could someone fill in the half that's still here, what OC3 &amp; OC12 is?

 

[Windogg]

OC stands for Optical Carrier and OC speeds are used to define the speed of the line

OC-1 = 51.85 Mbps
OC-3 = 155.52 Mbps
OC-12 = 622.08

You just multiply the OC-1 speed by the number attached to the next OC speed (Sounds ugly but my brain is tired).

Windogg

 

[lupin]

turned out that somebody in AnandTech still doesn't know what the speed ratings for OCXX is....



me. :disgust:

 

[hippy]

Thanks Windogg, I've gotten quite rusty with my networking knowledge over the last year or so.

And no, your discription doesn't sound ugly at all. It makes perfect sense.
Another &quot;?&quot; though. Is an &quot;Optical Carrier&quot; just a &quot;Fiber Optic&quot; connection to a server and from that server, or is there more to it than that?

Or, am I totally Off?

 

[Windogg]

All that fiber optic cable is connected via a SONET network which stands for Syncronous Optical Network to various pieces of equipment that does the transfering such as high speed switches and routers. The OC in OC-3 is like the T in T-3 and just a description.

Let's just say that I am a little less rusty than you. It's also kinda fuzzy in my head. Cablegod could probably give better information. unfortunatly, I think he died a premature death because of the most recent car thread.

Windogg

 

[hippy]

A little less rusty than me? Hahaha! Crap! I learned two new words tonight... and what they mean too! LOL


But now I'm major bummed about that 10yd coil of orange cable tubing that's been layin against the telephone pole a stones throw from my house for the last friggin year!

Ps. Any good sites to out there for info on this?

 

[Windogg]

DSLReports gives up to date info on when cable and DSl will hopefully be available in an area.

I have crappy cable right and I'm 6811 feet from a CO so sDSL is a option.

Windogg

 

[hippy]

Ok... I'm havin a brainfart here. Is &quot;OC&quot; the same thing as &quot;DSL&quot;? Or, Is it a different variation of the same, or neither?

 

[Windogg]

Just another flavor of wiring to move data. DSL (Digital Subscribor Line) works off standard copper phone lines used for POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service). Most homes have 2 pairs even though only one is being used. The second is reserved for other uses. If your home is relatively modern and the line is not too noisy, then you can get DSL. DSL run through that second pair to bring data into a house/business. It goes into a DSL modem and then into a router/server/PC. DSL comes in many flavors such as SDSL/Syncronous DSL (same upstream and downstream) or ADSL/Asyncronous DSL (Different upstream and downstream). There are many more but they are collectively known as xDSL.

T-1, T-2, T-3, OC-1, IDSN, xDSL are just ways to bring data from point A to point B.

Windogg

 

[urbantechie]

Whats DS1/2/3? Is that the fastest? or is ATM?

 

[perry]

<< your home is relatively modern and the line is not too noisy, then you can get DSL. DSL run through that second pair to bring data into a house/business >>



Bzzzzzt. Wrong answer. The data on the DSL line runs over the same pair as voice, just at higher frequencies. The voice signal will run up to a frequency of 4kHz, data is run at a frequency greater than 26kHz. All on the same pair of copper wire. The second pair can be used for a second telephone line, and if desired, a second xDSl connection.

 

[Windogg]

DS-1, DS-2, and DS-3 are just different way to describe T-1, T-2 and T-3 lines. A T-1 is really just 24 64K voice lines tied together. A T-3 or DS-3 is 672 64K channels for 43mbps. Check with the PBX manager at a large company and you find out that phone calls are run across these lines. The office I;m at has 2 T-1s for voice and can handle 48 simultanious calls.

ATM or Asycronous Transfer Mode is another protocol (Ethernet or Token Ring) for transfering data.

Windogg

EDIT: Ack...scrwed up my data layers

 

[Windogg]

Ok, perry is right that they can run on the same line but many people I know with DSL have it running off the second pair. As for noise, my parent cannot get DSL because the &quot;quality&quot; of the line falls below a certain threshhold. Damn old NYC wiring.

Windogg

 

[perry]

ATM is just a method of transferrring data. Asynchronous Transfer Mode. It is a fast-packet, cell switching technology for all types of broadband signals (be they voice, data, fax, video or image, compressed or uncompressed).

If you're worried about transfer rates, it varies from DS-1 and DS-3; OC-1 and OC-3. Backbone transmission rates are DS-3 and OC-1 at a minimum, and generall OC-3 or better. The nice thing about ATM is that it is scaleable in both bandwidth and geographic terms.

I can get alot more technical and start throwing around lots of acronyms, but it won't do much good.