Hosted by Sonataweb?

mugs

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Every site on their pearljam server was hacked last night, changed to some crap about the war in Lebanon. Not sure about the other servers.

I'm in the process of moving all of my domains to a VPS anyway... this just gave me the kick in the pants I needed to finish it up.
 

dartworth

Lifer
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several of us have warned people of Sonataweb...it is a disaster waiting to happen:(


some decent VPS providers...

knownhost.com
slhost.com
liquidweb.com
 

tami

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i know, but i had a free reseller account on SW for over a year, so i didn't want to complain... :p

you don't want to put servint on that list, dartworth?
 

tami

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baked: when the previous owner sold the company, the people who took the reigns stopped caring about their customers. i assume this is some payback or proof that there is nobody who cares about running a business behind the wheel there anymore. to be honest, i don't really care... i had a backup host when i was hacked so it wasn't much of a hassle for me (especially since i had backed up earlier that day).
 

So

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Man, I'm on another Sonataweb server, and we got hacked a few weeks back. Good job sonataweb.
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: tami
hey mugs, what VPS are you considering?

Steadfast.net which is awesome.

Not the cheapest but they've been around and have a good network.

Yes, so far I've been very pleased with my experience with Steadfast. After my experience with Sonata I've been blown away by the speed. With Sonata the server would go down frequently, any time I tried to upload a large amount of files many of them would fail, and it was just generally slow. To the point that I stopped using the server for e-mail because I couldn't bear to use the webmail. (I use gMail Hosted now).

What really pisses me off is that they claim that whoever hacked the server also deleted all of the backups. That strikes me as odd, because
1. They claim to make offsite backups
2. The only files that were modified on the server were index.* and home.* files. They didn't delete anything else, so I'm not sure what the point of deleting all of the (offsite) backups would be.

Worst. Webhost. Ever.
 

Specop 007

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Yep, I'm fubared as well.
My main page is down, cpanel is fuxored. I can browse to my subdirectories though.

Reason I didnt change a while ago when I was warned is because I dont have a uber important website. That said, I will be moving after this.

That said, my website is now some Disney MGM crap. :confused:
 

thirdlegstump

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Moral of the story if you care about proper continuity of your web service: go with a big multinational provider like 1&1. My sites have never gone down with them and their control panel provides enough flexibility to get stuff done. $10 a month with solid service is chump change.
 

thirdlegstump

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Moral of the story if you care about proper continuity of your web service: go with a big multinational provider like 1&1. My sites have never gone down with them and their control panel provides enough flexibility to get stuff done. $10 a month with solid service is chump change.

BTW, I think all of these cheap hosting companies like sonata, hostpc ...hell just about anything talked about on webhostingtalk.com is likely run by a bunch of kids.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: tami
hey mugs, what VPS are you considering?

Steadfast.net which is awesome.

Not the cheapest but they've been around and have a good network.

Yes, so far I've been very pleased with my experience with Steadfast. After my experience with Sonata I've been blown away by the speed. With Sonata the server would go down frequently, any time I tried to upload a large amount of files many of them would fail, and it was just generally slow. To the point that I stopped using the server for e-mail because I couldn't bear to use the webmail. (I use gMail Hosted now).

What really pisses me off is that they claim that whoever hacked the server also deleted all of the backups. That strikes me as odd, because
1. They claim to make offsite backups
2. The only files that were modified on the server were index.* and home.* files. They didn't delete anything else, so I'm not sure what the point of deleting all of the (offsite) backups would be.

Worst. Webhost. Ever.

Actually UltraUnix.net ties for that title.

I'm in the process of moving my SonataWeb.net clients to BudgetReseller.com which had a WHT promo offering buy 1 year - get 2 years free. Hopefully BR won't turn into another UltraUnix or SonataWeb.

[BR03 Plan]
2000MB Space
40GB Bandwidth
$98 for 3 years
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Moral of the story if you care about proper continuity of your web service: go with a big multinational provider like 1&1. My sites have never gone down with them and their control panel provides enough flexibility to get stuff done. $10 a month with solid service is chump change.

BTW, I think all of these cheap hosting companies like sonata, hostpc ...hell just about anything talked about on webhostingtalk.com is likely run by a bunch of kids.

I dunno, I still like hostpc for the cost. nothing I have is of dire importance, and DA rocks. I believe Joe is a man true to his words. Although, I hope he isn't spreading himself too thin acquiring quite a couple of hosts.
 

tami

Lifer
Nov 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: So
Man, I'm on another Sonataweb server, and we got hacked a few weeks back. Good job sonataweb.

that is probably the same host i linked you to in my original response.

listen to the rossman, he knows his stuff... get off of SonataWeb, and don't tell anyone you weren't warned that this would happen.

i learned from my mistake.
 

EyeMWing

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Jun 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Hows 1&1? They have a very attractive shared package.

I'm still on my free 1&1 package from a few years ago, it's okay. Their interface is annoying and proprietary, though.
 

thirdlegstump

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: tami
hey mugs, what VPS are you considering?

Steadfast.net which is awesome.

Not the cheapest but they've been around and have a good network.

Yes, so far I've been very pleased with my experience with Steadfast. After my experience with Sonata I've been blown away by the speed. With Sonata the server would go down frequently, any time I tried to upload a large amount of files many of them would fail, and it was just generally slow. To the point that I stopped using the server for e-mail because I couldn't bear to use the webmail. (I use gMail Hosted now).

What really pisses me off is that they claim that whoever hacked the server also deleted all of the backups. That strikes me as odd, because
1. They claim to make offsite backups
2. The only files that were modified on the server were index.* and home.* files. They didn't delete anything else, so I'm not sure what the point of deleting all of the (offsite) backups would be.

Worst. Webhost. Ever.

Actually UltraUnix.net ties for that title.

I'm in the process of moving my SonataWeb.net clients to BudgetReseller.com which had a WHT promo offering buy 1 year - get 2 years free. Hopefully BR won't turn into another UltraUnix or SonataWeb.

[BR03 Plan]
2000MB Space
40GB Bandwidth
$98 for 3 years

Yes, hopefully. What scares me is when a company puts the word "budget" into their name ;)

I've been a very happy 1&1 customer for the last 5 years. I can't even remember the last time I had a complaint about their service. It's always been fast and not once has it gone down. Rock solid dependability. They charge too little for their level of service IMO.

On the otherhand I've played around with these other cheap hosts like Sonata and it's been nothing but headaches and embarrassment to my clients. Sometimes mail won't come through, sites are hacked, down from routine maintenance (what do they do run it on PCs???!) etc. I can't recommend them for anything. Cheap but that's what you get..and less at that especially if you value your time.

I prefer big cluster reliability and dependability. Go with the big providers.

Just my .02
 

Sphexi

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I'm still using Canaca, still haven't had a problem ever. If ever I have an issue, I email them and it's fixed within a few hours at most.
 

So

Lifer
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Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: So
Man, I'm on another Sonataweb server, and we got hacked a few weeks back. Good job sonataweb.

that is probably the same host i linked you to in my original response.

listen to the rossman, he knows his stuff... get off of SonataWeb, and don't tell anyone you weren't warned that this would happen.

i learned from my mistake.

No, you're right. Fortunately, I had backups so there was no damage, but as soon as I have a little time, I'm going to switch.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Yes, hopefully. What scares me is when a company puts the word "budget" into their name ;)

I've been a very happy 1&1 customer for the last 5 years. I can't even remember the last time I had a complaint about their service. It's always been fast and not once has it gone down. Rock solid dependability. They charge too little for their level of service IMO.

On the otherhand I've played around with these other cheap hosts like Sonata and it's been nothing but headaches and embarrassment to my clients. Sometimes mail won't come through, sites are hacked, down from routine maintenance (what do they do run it on PCs???!) etc. I can't recommend them for anything. Cheap but that's what you get..and less at that especially if you value your time.

I prefer big cluster reliability and dependability. Go with the big providers.

Just my .02

Great advice, thanks for sharing :)

I only use my SonataWeb resellers account for my free web hosting clients. My paying clients mean the world to me and I will only trust premium web hosts which start at $35/mo for their hosting needs.

With these budget web host providers you'll probably changed web host providers every 6 months. With my premium web hosts, I have been with them for 2+ years and don't plan on switching anytime soon :)

You get what you pay for!!!