Hostage Escapes--Then Sheriff Deputies Kill Him

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PastTense

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"Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies mistakenly shot two hostages, killing one, earlier this week as the men fled a knife-wielding captor in West Hollywood, officials said Thursday. John Winkler, a 30-year-old TV production assistant who had recently arrived from Washington state to pursue a career in entertainment, was hit once in the chest when three deputies opened fire on him Monday night at an apartment complex, officials said in a statement."
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-producer-killed-20140411,0,386407,full.story

Anyone understand this? Since the guy wasn't holding a deadly weapon, I don't see any reason to fire on him.
 
waggy

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PastTense said:
"Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies mistakenly shot two hostages, killing one, earlier this week as the men fled a knife-wielding captor in West Hollywood, officials said Thursday. John Winkler, a 30-year-old TV production assistant who had recently arrived from Washington state to pursue a career in entertainment, was hit once in the chest when three deputies opened fire on him Monday night at an apartment complex, officials said in a statement."
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-producer-killed-20140411,0,386407,full.story

Anyone understand this? Since the guy wasn't holding a deadly weapon, I don't see any reason to fire on him.
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they were in a situation where they knew hostages where held. they thought it was the bad guy. instead of trying to do it right they shot.

that is what they are trained to do
 
KeithP

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PastTense said:
Anyone understand this? Since the guy wasn't holding a deadly weapon, I don't see any reason to fire on him.
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Read the article idiot...
"The apartment door suddenly opened and a male victim came rushing out," the statement said. "He was covered in blood and bleeding profusely from the neck. Simultaneously, Winkler ran out of the door, lunging at the back of the fleeing victim. Both ran directly at the deputies."

Winkler fit the general description of the suspect — a white man in a black shirt — and when he bolted out of the apartment, deputies believed Winkler was the assailant, officials said.
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-KeithP
 
waggy

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KeithP said:
Read the article idiot...

-KeithP
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right so the answere is to shoot first?

oh wait i forgot this is the same LAPD that shot up the women in a truck because they were scared of donner..


so yeah. the firs answere for them is shoot
 
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waggy said:
right so the answere is to shoot first?

oh wait i forgot this is the same LAPD that shot up the women in a truck because they were scared of donner..


so yeah. the firs answere for them is shoot
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they would have been safer with the kidnapper.
 
Ruptga

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Uh...
-hostage situation
-guy comes running out of building, blood everywhere
-second guy comes running out of building, unhurt and on the first guy's heels

What about any of that says to you guys "freeze and ponder the situation"?
 
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Ruptga said:
Uh...
-hostage situation
-guy comes running out of building, blood everywhere
-second guy comes running out of building, unhurt and on the first guy's heels

What about any of that says to you guys "freeze and ponder the situation"?
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what were those hostages thinkiing, run away from the kidnapper toward the police where they will be safe. surely the police will know the difference... wrong. blamo!
 
Ruptga

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BladeVenom said:
So just shoot them both?
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So stop the second one. The first is obviously not a threat, and the second could very easily be the hostage taker. Ideally they would tase him or do something else non lethal, but we hardly live in an ideal place.
 
Colt45

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LAPD should recruit some manly men, instead of pansies that shoot anything that moves. :awe:
 
norseamd

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PastTense said:
Anyone understand this? Since the guy wasn't holding a deadly weapon, I don't see any reason to fire on him.
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do you think they give a fucking fuck

this happened in my city not too long ago

some guy was holding hostages at the local red roof inn and some guy escaped out the room and the cops shot him right away
 
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positivedoppler

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Colt45 said:
LAPD should recruit some manly men, instead of pansies that shoot anything that moves. :awe:
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Here's the problem with LAPD. Too dumb to get into college? Too cowardly to join the military? Lack skill or talent to learn a legitimate trade? Like to power trip and hide behind a uniform?
 
OBLAMA2009

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i would be worried about this sort of thing in a hostage situation, if you exscaped thered be forty swat dudes trying to be a "hero" by shooting you
 
AViking

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Did the cops expect the hostages to not run directly at them? Did they have weapons?

Damn these cops are dumb.

With that said hostage situations are nasty. You're supposed to keep a very low profile. If you're ever in this same situation you should probably dive out the door and stay down.
 
waggy

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Ruptga said:
Uh...
-hostage situation
-guy comes running out of building, blood everywhere
-second guy comes running out of building, unhurt and on the first guy's heels

What about any of that says to you guys "freeze and ponder the situation"?
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and what in that situation says shoot them both? when they are unarmed?


lol
 
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