Horrific picture emerges of besieged Syrian town

JEDIYoda

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Looks to me as if all this protesting is doing what it was intended to do.....
People dying for their beliefs........when enough people had died then I guess the present government will just roll over and quietly go away.......(tongue in cheek)



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110516/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_syria

WADI KHALED, Lebanon – Using horses and mules to carry their possessions, Syrians crossed a shallow river Monday to reach safety in Lebanon with tales of a "catastrophic" scene back home: sectarian killings, gunmen carrying out execution-style slayings and the stench of decomposing bodies in the streets.

The accounts are bound together by a sense of growing desperation as President Bashar Assad's regime expands its crackdown on an uprising that has entered a third month with no sign of letting up.

At least 16 people — eight of them members of the same family — have been killed in recent days in Talkalakh, a town of about 70,000 residents that has been under siege since Thursday, witnesses and activists say.

The deaths boost an already staggering toll, with more than 850 people killed nationwide since mid-March, according to the National Organization for Human Rights in Syria.

"The situation in the city is catastrophic," said a 55-year-old Syrian who asked to be identified only by his first name, Ahmad. He crossed the border into Lebanon before dawn Monday.

"If you walk in the streets of Talkalakh you can smell the dead bodies," he said.

Residents interviewed by The Associated Press on Monday as they crossed into Lebanon said their town, which has held weekly anti-government rallies, came under attack by the army, security forces and shadowy, pro-regime gunmen known as "shabiha."

Residents recognized the shabiha by their black clothes and red arm bands — apparently worn so they can recognize each other in the confusion of an attack.

Four residents independently told the AP that shabiha gunmen killed a man named Adnan al-Kurdi along with his wife, five daughters and a son in their home — a harrowing story that could not be independently verified. None of those interviewed knew why the family was killed. But they said the killings motivated them to leave.

"We did not want to have our throats slit," said Umm Rashid, who fled to Lebanon with her seven daughters by hopping on a truck that carried dozens on a short trip across the frontier.

The trip was less than three miles (five kilometers), but it was perilous. Gunmen fired on the truck as it sped out of town under cover of darkness, wounding a woman and an 8-year-old girl, witnesses said.

"Bullets buzzed over our heads in a crazy way," said a 50-year-old resident who gave only his first name, Qassim.

Besides the al-Kurdi family, another eight people were reported killed in Talkalakh — all of them on Sunday, said Syrian human rights activist Mustafa Osso.

Tension in the town had spiked on Thursday, when authorities cut electricity and telephone service and cut off the water supply. Later, three mosques were struck by rocket-propelled grenades, witnesses said.

The siege apparently was meant to head off protests the next day, when Syrians across the country have been massing after Friday prayers since the middle of March. At first, the protesters called for reforms, but now, enraged over the mounting death toll, many are demanding the downfall of the regime.

Talkalakh residents have been coming out every week, calling for Assad to leave, residents said.

"By Friday night, life turned to hell," Qassim said. Intensive shelling by tanks and heavy machine gun fire pounded the town, he said.

Authorities justified the siege by saying the city was full of Islamic extremists who wanted to form an Islamic state, residents told The Associated Press.

"This is all not true," said Ahmad, who did not want to be further identified for fear of reprisals.

Assad has blamed the unrest on armed thugs and foreign agitators. He also has played on fears of sectarian strife to persuade people not to demonstrate, saying chaos will result.

One resident said the conflict in Talkalakh has taken on dangerous sectarian tones.

Hamid, 45, who asked to be identified only by his first name, said the shabiha gunmen are targeting Sunnis in the city.

Syria has multiple sectarian divisions, largely kept in check under Assad's heavy hand and his regime's secular ideology. Most significantly, the majority of the population is Sunni Muslim, but Assad and the ruling elite belong to the minority Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shiite Islam.

The shabiha, too, are believed to be mainly Alawites.

Talkalakh is a Sunni city, surrounded by 12 Alawite villages.

"The city of Talkalakh is empty of people. Most of them have fled to Lebanon," Hamid said.

At the Wadi Khaled crossing point, Syrians crossed a narrow river separating the countries by hopping along rocks in the narrow water.

Bursts of gunfire could be heard from the Syrian side Monday in Wadi Khaled, as Syrians continued to arrive, some using horses and mules to carry their belongings into Lebanon.

Hundreds of Syrian and Lebanese men were standing just steps away from the border as bullets from the Syrian side buzzed overhead, sending them running for cover.

Two ambulances were parked nearby to tend to any wounded Syrians.

One paramedic said one man who crossed the border shortly after midnight had a gunshot wound to his back.

The Lebanese army was fortifying its positions in Wadi Khaled with a bulldozer, setting up sand dunes and putting up barbed wire to protect themselves from stray bullets.

More than 5,000 Syrians have fled to Lebanon in recent weeks. Traveling between the two countries is not difficult; citizens need only their identification papers to pass through.

In Damascus, a resident said several thousand people turned out for a protester's funeral in the suburb of Saqba. He asked that his name not be used for fear of reprisals.

Also Monday, the National Organization for Human Rights said in a statement Monday that at least 34 people were killed in the past five days in the villages of Inkhil and Jassem near the southern city of Daraa. Ammar Qurabi, the head of the human rights organization, said five bodies were discovered in Daraa on Monday, raising the overall death toll to 850.

There were also unconfirmed reports that up to 20 bodies were found in a grave there. Calls to Daraa were not going through Monday to verify the reports.

Like Talkalakh, Daraa was sealed off in recent weeks as the military unleashed a deadly siege, sending in troops backed by tanks and snipers to crush the heart of the rebellion. Daraa is the city where the uprising began, touched off by the arrest of teenagers who scrawled anti-regime graffiti on a wall.

A resident of Inkhil told the AP on Monday there were more than 70 tanks in the village and that two hospitals in the area were taken over by security forces.

A similar tactic was used in another brutal crackdown on protesters in the region, in Bahrain. International rights groups have said Bahrain targeted medical professionals who treated injured demonstrators.

"The gunfire never stops," the Inkhil resident said on condition of anonymity.

Munira Ahmad, who fled Talkalakh with her four daughters, said she had no choice but to run.

"We fled from death," she said, holding back tears. She worries nonstop about the family she left behind, including her husband and three sons.

"I don't know what happened to them. My husband has heart problems," she said.

But she cannot call to check on them — the telephone lines are still cut.
 

Pocatello

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Nothing new, just Muslims killing Muslims. They only care if the Jews are killing the Palestinians.
 

Lemon law

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For once JediY I will agree with you, I have to regard Assad as an international war criminal. But I have to view the Israeli government with the same view, and Assad misbehavior does not elevate Israeli government policy in any way.
 

JTsyo

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Too bad for the Syrian people that they don't provide enough oil to Europe or the US.
 

freegeeks

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I don't understand why some people bring their young children to these demonstrations

horrific stuff
 

Genx87

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For once JediY I will agree with you, I have to regard Assad as an international war criminal. But I have to view the Israeli government with the same view, and Assad misbehavior does not elevate Israeli government policy in any way.

What does Isreal have to do with the Syrian govt killing their people?

You are a pathetic fool.
 

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warning, graphic violence

There was a much better video of shootings at a protest that really shows the story, but I can't find it now. The one posted is more just "shock video" type.

Oh wait, I found it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbeuYtFmcyQ
Powerful, but graphic. You've been warned.

The horrific pictures have emerged, and they're on Youtube.

WTF are you talking about? It's a dead guy in the street. There's no back story, we don't know how he got there, could have been gang related violence. Typical liberal crap. Take a video clip and conveniently title it to suit your agenda and post it as a brazen affront to whatever the cause o' the day is. I think you should stick to posting annoying anime in threads you don't agree with.
 
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What does Isreal have to do with the Syrian govt killing their people?

You are a pathetic fool.

He can turn a thread about baking cookies into how evil Zionist Jingostic Jews of Israel are.
He's a one trick pony and his trick is tired and ineffective.

He doesn't understand the actual issues involved in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. He just roots for the underdog without realizing the underdog in that fight is the group that is actually in the wrong.
 

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wow.. that first youtube video was gruesome.

smitbret... tf is your problem? calm down, be cordial. just because cnn doesn't show you what's really going on in the world doesn't mean it isn't happening.

damn liberals posting links to videos relevant to the topic.. damn them!
see how stupid you sound?
 
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WTF are you talking about? It's a dead guy in the street. There's no back story, we don't know how he got there, could have been gang related violence. Typical liberal crap. Take a video clip and conveniently title it to suit your agenda and post it as a brazen affront to whatever the cause o' the day is. I think you should stick to posting annoying anime in threads you don't agree with.

I know right. I mean righties never to the bolded above.

/sacracsm
 
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Thanks for posting the videos. This is probably going to get uglier and uglier until it finally explodes in a two-way bloodbath and perhaps a revolution. More killings make the Sunni protesters angrier and angrier resulting in even more killings until the protesters finally smuggle in their own weapons.
 

piasabird

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Where are the promised Photos? I have been ripped off.

Syria is always letting terrorists cross through their borders to attack Isreal, so it is hard to feel sorry for them.
 

brandonb

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Let's see, out of the Arab countries (who do not have a peace treaty with Israel), which one has not had huge bloody protests, war, bombings, civil wars, etc in the last 10 years?

Ummm.... Iran...

They are next!
 

Karl Agathon

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Nothing new, just Muslims killing Muslims. They only care if the Jews are killing the Palestinians.


:thumbsup: Correct, the usual stormfront Jew hating monsters here only seem to focus on a subject if a Jew is involved.
 
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Lemon law

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I have somewhat decided to say I was wrong, because the villainy of Assad has nothing to do with Israel. It was a mistake to in any way link the two countries.

But we can note that it was the accent of the Arab league that justifies basic current Nato action against Libya. But in the case of Syria, the same Arab League has with held its consent regarding Nato military action against Syria. Maybe the Arab League motivation may be too much change too fast, but the world consenus is building to dope slap Assad.

The other thing to realize is that the Arab League leadership is in a state of flux. The current head is leaving to run for the Egyptian Presidency, and at the same time, Arabs all over the region realize their former leaders screwed the common people and delimited their economies by looting their national resources for personal benefit. So I expect the Arab League leadership to be progressively in a state of Flux with results not yet known.

But since this is a Syrian thread, lets all resolve that Assad has to go, as a rat fink from an unacceptable past.
 

Lemon law

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why can't the protesters shoot back and defend themselves?
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Kinda simple if you think about, Assad never let them have any weapons to defend themselves with. Its why Mubarak is out and Assad is still in power, when Murarak told his military to kill their fellow Egyptians, The Egyptian army told Murbarak hell no.
 

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the first comment from the article made me rofl:

Uh-oh-- Assad better back -off or the UN will be forced to write a very strongly worded letter.

it's quite horrible what's happening to these people. They don't deserve it. I hope for them that they manage to overthrow assad. Somehow, i doubt NATO will get involved in yet another country, but we'll see.
 

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the first comment from the article made me rofl:



it's quite horrible what's happening to these people. They don't deserve it. I hope for them that they manage to overthrow assad. Somehow, i doubt NATO will get involved in yet another country, but we'll see.
imho they won't.
Lybia:
- north africa
- in the middle of countries where revolution had already happened
- had a center of revolution
- armed rebels actually controlled a big city and a territory
- ghaddafi has always been a asshole in diplomacy
Syria:
- Mashriq
- israel nearby
- ongoing problems with israel
- huge
- you can't go there with planes from france, drop some bomb and except something to happen
- opposition is powerless

Anyway Morocco had no unrest, just some bombings, but that happened in the USA and europe too so it's a retarded criteria.
 

Zebo

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Hard to have a revolution by small arms. This is not 18th century . Artillery can wipe whole cities out in a day like Hama massacre and there are much worse weapons than that. Basically w/o outside help and even then it doubtful (see libya standoff) or regime wants to leave it's futile.