Horizontal lines on my LCD using PS3

aphex

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Since the DLP in the living room died, I hooked up my PS3 to my 24" Acer LCD (1920x1200 max res)

When in the XMB using 1080p, there are horizontal lines running the entire length of the screen. They don't move, they are static, but only show up when using 1080p. If a game is 720p (or if I switch the XMB to 720p) no issues at all. However, if any game can run in full 1080p resolution, I can see the lines.

Any ideas?
 

Boobs McGee

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How are you connecting it?
If HDMI, have you tried a HDMI>DVI connector a component set(if your monitor supports it)?
Also does your LCD support any scaling options?
I would try that and see if it gets you anywhere.
 

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This is a very common scaling issue for monitors that have a native resolution of 1920x1200, BUT have no integrated scaler. Since you are using 1080p, essentially you are asking your monitor to stretch/squeeze VERTICALLY.(depending on your monitor) the image to fit the 1200 pixel length. The "lines" are the consequences of not having a hardware scaler.

There are no problems when using 720P because now both the horizontal and vertical resolutions need to upscale, so I guess you can say they "smooth" each other out.

BTW, on my HP f2304, when using the PS3 and in 1080 mode, I get lines, but they flicker on and off frequently.
 

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Originally posted by: Boobs McGee
How are you connecting it?
If HDMI, have you tried a HDMI>DVI connector a component set(if your monitor supports it)?
Also does your LCD support any scaling options?
I would try that and see if it gets you anywhere.

I'm using an HDMI -> DVI convertor. No component inputs on the LCD and no scaling as far as I can tell.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: Blurry
This is a very common scaling issue for monitors that have a native resolution of 1920x1200, BUT have no integrated scaler. Since you are using 1080p, essentially you are asking your monitor to stretch/squeeze VERTICALLY.(depending on your monitor) the image to fit the 1200 pixel length. The "lines" are the consequences of not having a hardware scaler.

There are no problems when using 720P because now both the horizontal and vertical resolutions need to upscale, so I guess you can say they "smooth" each other out.

BTW, on my HP f2304, when using the PS3 and in 1080 mode, I get lines, but they flicker on and off frequently.

Interesting, so essentially nothing I can do to fix it (short of getting a new LCD?)
 

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Well dude, it looks like you may be out of luck with your current gear. My Dell 2405 will scale pretty much anything I throw at it by selecting one of the options, 1:1, Aspect, and Fill. In some cases I get black borders, in others I get goofy looking stretching, and some look great.
I would guess that you have been through all the menu options on your monitor. Maybe google around a little bit for the exact model of your monitor and see if you have any luck there.

In the end, does 720p look bad? At least you have some capability.
 

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Originally posted by: Boobs McGee
Well dude, it looks like you may be out of luck with your current gear. My Dell 2405 will scale pretty much anything I throw at it by selecting one of the options, 1:1, Aspect, and Fill. In some cases I get black borders, in others I get goofy looking stretching, and some look great.
I would guess that you have been through all the menu options on your monitor. Maybe google around a little bit for the exact model of your monitor and see if you have any luck there.

In the end, does 720p look bad? At least you have some capability.

The 720 looks great, I was just hoping to use the full 1080p res (The XMB does indeed look better in 1080p, just has the lines). I guess I'm a bit confused, I was under the assumption that no scaling was needed if you output 1080p to a display that supports 1920x1200.

EDIT: I'm an idiot. I just re-read what I wrote ;)

1080p - 1920 x 1080, not 1920 x 1200

Ignore me :)
 

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aphex, sorry to say this, but you are SOL unless you fork over several hundreds for a new monitor.

But, do try out 1080i and let me know what you think. On mine, 1080i is slightly sharper than 720p, but not nearly as sharp as 1080p. However, I do not get any vertical banding in 1080i mode.

 

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Originally posted by: Blurry
aphex, sorry to say this, but you are SOL unless you fork over several hundreds for a new monitor.

But, do try out 1080i and let me know what you think. On mine, 1080i is slightly sharper than 720p, but not nearly as sharp as 1080p. However, I do not get any vertical banding in 1080i mode.

When I try 1080i, all I get is a black screen. Only 480p/720p/1080p work.

This is only a temporary setup until I get a new TV in the living room, so no biggie.