Hopefully finally nail down preferableness of DVD-R OR DVD+R

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warcrow

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I have a Sony DRU-510a. It supports -r/+r/-rw/+rw, so there is never a problem or concern with compatibility. I absolutely love my Sony burner. I've had it for over 2 years and have not burned a single coaster.

Sony is always updating the firmware to support new technologies. Infact, the new 1.1a firmware update now allows support for DL disks. That is incredible support if you ask me. When I originally purchased the burner, I had no idea I would ever been interested in DL disks. Its nice to know that its an option now. :)
 

santa590

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I read somewhere that the reading speed changes by it's book type. It may only apply to PC dvd drives, so I don't know what the condition is (data or video) and whether it applies to standalone dvd players also.

It stated that the reading speed for DVD-R and DVD+R are read at a slower speed compare to a press DVD-ROM. When a DVD+R's booktype is changed to DVD-ROM, it fools the player and treats it the same as a pressed DVD. I don't know what the advantage or disadvantage is. Anyone know the mechanics of how different a pressed DVD and DVD+R are? Is there more stress to the drive/laser to read data from a DVD+R at the same speed as a pressed DVD?
 

essential

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So let me see if I understand this ... from what i've read in this thread, to change the booktype, the DVD-Burner, and the DVD Burning software have to allow it, or does just the software need to allow it?

I know the new Nero can change the booktype with certain burners, does anyone know if Roxio 7 is planning any firmware upgrades to allow users to change booktypes?
 

warcrow

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Originally posted by: essential
So let me see if I understand this ... from what i've read in this thread, to change the booktype, the DVD-Burner, and the DVD Burning software have to allow it, or does just the software need to allow it?

I know the new Nero can change the booktype with certain burners, does anyone know if Roxio 7 is planning any firmware upgrades to allow users to change booktypes?

FYI:

Firmware vs. Patch
 

Texun

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For what it's worth... I read this and much more at VCDHelp

DVD-R and DVD-RW
DVD-R was the first DVD recording format released that was compatible with standalone DVD Players.
DVD-R is a non-rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 93% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD-RW is a rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 80% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD-R and DVD-RW supports single side 4.37 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-5) and double sided 8.75 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-10).
These formats are supported by DVDForum.

DVD+R and DVD+RW
DVD+R is a non-rewritable format and it is compatible with about 89% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD+RW is a rewritable format and is compatible with about 79% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD+R and DVD+RW supports single side 4.37 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-5) and double side 8.75 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-10).
These formats are supported by the DVD+RW Alliance.
 

Jerry

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This thread of mine has become quite useful. I would, actually, like to see if there are informed opinions as to whether the question raised by RFJ, and not yet answered, has a ready answer to it.
I expect it is whether the additional software tools and supposedly higher quality innards of the Plextor 712a DVD would make up for the 1 failing, namely no dual layer support, in comparison to the Nec 3500a and Pioneer 108.
In other words, in practicality, is dual layer worth the purchasing of a somewhat lesser quality DVD writer and reader, as the reviewers say the NEC and Pioneer are (or may not be). Or is dual layer sufficiently out there in the future, in terms of true practicality, that it is not a really relevant issue to presently purchased DVD writers and readers ?
 

TerryMathews

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Originally posted by: Jerry
This thread of mine has become quite useful. I would, actually, like to see if there are informed opinions as to whether the question raised by RFJ, and not yet answered, has a ready answer to it.
I expect it is whether the additional software tools and supposedly higher quality innards of the Plextor 712a DVD would make up for the 1 failing, namely no dual layer support, in comparison to the Nec 3500a and Pioneer 108.
In other words, in practicality, is dual layer worth the purchasing of a somewhat lesser quality DVD writer and reader, as the reviewers say the NEC and Pioneer are (or may not be). Or is dual layer sufficiently out there in the future, in terms of true practicality, that it is not a really relevant issue to presently purchased DVD writers and readers ?

I've never found either of my NEC burners to produce bad discs. I guess if you need software, that's something to consider but most of us have 32.5 copies of Nero already and don't need another one. :)
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: RFJ
NightCrawler, permit me to enter in with you and Jerry... I note your reference to "a $50 DVD burner is all you need."
Might that apply to my post, immediately above re the Plextor ? And that the Plextor's presumed or supposed higher quality might not be worth the extra expense when things have possibly consumerized at /to this point where an NEC 3500 will burn just as well as the Plextor, for example ?
I picked up a $50 stand alone DVD player just so that I could play burned CDRs which would not play on the older CD player. The sound was perhaps not great, and certainly not as good as some expensive high end CD player, but it is sufficient, in that I go for the content more than the subtleties.
Might the metaphor apply also to DVD burners and the eventual ?scans? and images they provide ?

Plextor use to be all that back in the day but now that technology is moving so fast it doesn't make that much sense to spend the extra cash on them anymore.

EDIT: Looking at the prices on newegg there not that expensive: http://www.newegg.com/app/view...=27-131-310&DEPA=1

$65 for a 8x burner with the Plextor nameplate is pretty much a bargain.