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Hope for the Muslim world?
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imported_dna
Golden Member
You speak out of ignorance, and your use of the smily is questionable. Furthermore, you assume that you are absolutely correct of what you speak with her about.
Light beatings are only the begining, as from there, it just gets worse.
imported_dna
Golden Member
imported_dna
Golden Member
imported_dna
Golden Member
Oh, ok! If you assume that you are right, then I guess you must be right..... :roll:
Whether it is written or not does not alter facts -- it may start with a slap, but may very well end up with a fist or a metal rod.
Like the woman in the video (linked to earlier) said: "if we accept everything in our lives as a given, we will never make progress".
I suggest you start employing your capacity for thinking -- an ability that God has provided you, for if God did not want you to use it, God would not have given it to you. You can't keep running to a book every time an issue arises.
Alaa says:
"sorry but we know When to use our brains! we are told to use our brains to make sure everything in Islam is true and once we do this we can't argue what is written. That's why we are called Muslims."
Is it any wonder then that the Muslim world is in such a mess? Frankly, I think the Muslim world needs radiation therapy (of the nuke kind) to get it out of this line of thinking.
"sorry but we know When to use our brains! we are told to use our brains to make sure everything in Islam is true and once we do this we can't argue what is written. That's why we are called Muslims."
Is it any wonder then that the Muslim world is in such a mess? Frankly, I think the Muslim world needs radiation therapy (of the nuke kind) to get it out of this line of thinking.
imported_dna
Golden Member
That's a little bit presumptions, don't you think?
How do you know that everybody there is in-love with this "way"?
Maybe some of them don't like it, but don't speak due to the fear of repercussions. (death in this case, right?)
How do you know that everybody there is in-love with this "way"?
Maybe some of them don't like it, but don't speak due to the fear of repercussions. (death in this case, right?)
palehorse
Lifer
it's NOT "fine to do it for girls"!! it's a SICK and ABUSIVE form of MUTILATION. I know that you probably think women are nothing more than hollow shells who can be abused and told what to do like a slave; but, I wouldnt hold it against the Muslim women if they one day decided to run around all of Egypt cutting off mens' junk. The men there deserve it IF they condone that barbaric female circumcision... hell, they probably deserve for 10 other reasons and crimes against women...
Are you silly enough to think that it's ok? or that it's no different than circumsizing a man? If so, PLEASE pick up a medical journal and start studying her parts again...
PS: The Hadiths are most of the problem in modern Islam. They are pretty much the most screwed up part of the religion and remain the basis for most of the fundamental beliefs which certain Imams twist for their own purposes. (Salafi, Wahhabi, etc)
Please do not attempt to force your ways on others.
Should the Mulim world choose to interact with the "others" do not be suprised if the "others" attempt to set some type of standards for such interactionis.
you are always making assumptions but you know nothing..this is the simple meaning of Ignorance!
everyone talks and nothing happens everyone says his opinion and nothing happens..so what's your point? people are free to choose what to do its their own fate and no one will carry their sins.
As you can see from the response of muslims on this and other forums,as well as the very similar behavior of their leaders on the world stage, coupled with the daily dose of muslim mayhem around the world, the time for reckoning with muslim society is rapidly approaching.
muslims neither have nor are willing to acquire the skills to flourish in the modern world which is the primary cause of their rage. That is also is why the majority of the conflicts of the world involve them in one way or another. This is in contrast to countries like China, the Far East, India etc. who, despite having cultures orthoganal to Western thinking, have plugged into the world system and are reaping the benefits.
Europeans, as usual, have capitulated at the first sign of the approaching threat. The U.S. should not do the same. George Bush's approach may be wrong but his intuition is right. Islamo-fascism has been rearing it's head over the world for the last half century and will envelop us all if we don't fight it.
muslims neither have nor are willing to acquire the skills to flourish in the modern world which is the primary cause of their rage. That is also is why the majority of the conflicts of the world involve them in one way or another. This is in contrast to countries like China, the Far East, India etc. who, despite having cultures orthoganal to Western thinking, have plugged into the world system and are reaping the benefits.
Europeans, as usual, have capitulated at the first sign of the approaching threat. The U.S. should not do the same. George Bush's approach may be wrong but his intuition is right. Islamo-fascism has been rearing it's head over the world for the last half century and will envelop us all if we don't fight it.
imported_dna
Golden Member
Pop quiz: if Europe decides to forbid any more Muslim immigration, am I correct to assume that they are a fair target for terrorism?
I base my assumption on one of your comments a while ago about how Jihad can use force to spread Islam, if resistance is encountered.
palehorse
Lifer
lol.. in all honesty, I probably know more about your religion than you do. I've been studying it intensely for years. The reason why is because I am capable of studying it without emotion clouding my analysis. I am able to remain objective in my studies.
you are not.
So surely you jest...
imported_dna
Golden Member
You avoided the question.
If Europe closed-up -- for the sake of mainting separation, and not meddling -- would they be a valid target for the use of force?
If Europe closed-up -- for the sake of mainting separation, and not meddling -- would they be a valid target for the use of force?
tvarad's comment way out of line. 🙁
My comment is that the Muslim/Islamic ways seem to dictate that non-belivers should be converted. And there are the mulitple incidents that happen whenever any aspect of Islam gets critized/publically evaluated.
This may not be the mainsteam attitude of the Muslim community; however, the continuation and automatic flare-up of situations across the world lend credence to those ideas.
With the Muslim ideals attempted to be being exported (by radicals in terms of terrorism and clerics), it indicates that the Muslim ideals are not satisifed to exist within their own boundaries.
If the Muslim ideals are being exported to the non-Muslim world; then the Muslim world should expect (and cannot complain) about reciprication.
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