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Hope at the Baltimore riots

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GagHalfrunt said:
Are you seriously suggesting the ridiculous and widely disproven idea that a single parent can't raise a happy, well-adjusted, non-criminal child?
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Are you seriously suggesting the ridiculous and widely disproven idea that kids are not massively disadvantaged, in general, growing up in households without fathers?
 
GagHalfrunt said:
Are you seriously suggesting the ridiculous and widely disproven idea that a single parent can't raise a happy, well-adjusted, non-criminal child?
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Nope. The suggestion is that statistics demonstrate dual parents have a higher probability of raising a happy, well-adjusted, non-criminal child.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
Well, it certainly requires PARENTING. One halfway decent parent is lightyears ahead of two bad ones.





While I agree the war on drugs is pointless and usually counter-productive, what exactly is that going to do to help clean up the ghettos? You think if crack was sold over the counter at 7-11 the crime would suddenly go away and everyone would lead happy productive lives? All you'd do is force the crime in another direction.

At one point the "gangs" were bootleggers. When alcohol became legal again those guys didn't go straight and get 9-5 jobs, they moved into gambling and prostitution. Areas where those were legalized got into protection rackets, insurance scams, etc. Those guys moved into drugs and if drugs become legal then the gangs go on to running guns or new levels of extortion or whatever. If America reversed its drug policy tomorrow what happens to Baltimore? There's still no white tax base to pay for things, no businesses to provide jobs, no chance of turning things around without nuking half the city and starting completely from scratch.
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Drug dealing is arguably the only economic value-add activity happening in some ghettos and the only thing besides social welfare keeping them above African village level poverty.
 
Blanky said:
Are you seriously suggesting the ridiculous and widely disproven idea that kids are not massively disadvantaged, in general, growing up in households without fathers?
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Bullshit. Most studies show exactly that. Even when controlling for economic and racial differences, single parent children do worse on many, many metrics.

Here's a metanalysis which lists just a few of the dozens if not hundreds of studies saying the same thing: http://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1044&context=hilltopreview
 
GagHalfrunt said:
While I agree the war on drugs is pointless and usually counter-productive, what exactly is that going to do to help clean up the ghettos? You think if crack was sold over the counter at 7-11 the crime would suddenly go away and everyone would lead happy productive lives? All you'd do is force the crime in another direction.
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Do you think sending people to prison makes them more violent or less? What happens to their community when they finish their prison sentences? An increase in violence or a decrease?
 
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When the sense of inequality in society becomes too great the disadvantaged will tear it down.

The Sword of God is the empty bellies of the poor. A saying
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Hitting your kid for being stupid doesn't make you a good mother.

Preventing your kid from acting like a fool in the first place is.
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I beg to differ! My mother caught me throwing a gum wrapper on the street. There was no time out, no discussions, just a few smacks, and the words, "you will never do this again". 50+ years later, I can honestly tell you I have never littered. Look on the sides of your roadways now,--------
Parents, you need to beat your kids:biggrin:
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Hitting your kid for being stupid doesn't make you a good mother.

Preventing your kid from acting like a fool in the first place is.
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I always thought you should only hit the child to get their attention. It looks like it is taking more to get his attention than ordinary. I going to guess that you are not suggesting that she quit trying.

Jim
 
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runzwithsizorz said:
I beg to differ! My mother caught me throwing a gum wrapper on the street. There was no time out, no discussions, just a few smacks, and the words, "you will never do this again". 50+ years later, I can honestly tell you I have never littered. Look on the sides of your roadways now,--------
Parents, you need to beat your kids:biggrin:
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The difference? When your momma slapped you then you were like "Oh shit. I better fucking not do that again".

What did this retard punk do? Kept backing away while resisting, talking shit to his mom, etc...


Don't mistake me - I'm definitely not against spanking/slapping your kid 😀
 
rdubbz said:
it certainly makes it more difficult.
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Yep. Especially if as you say she's working two jobs to make ends meet.

GagHalfrunt said:
Well, it certainly requires PARENTING. One halfway decent parent is lightyears ahead of two bad ones.

While I agree the war on drugs is pointless and usually counter-productive, what exactly is that going to do to help clean up the ghettos? You think if crack was sold over the counter at 7-11 the crime would suddenly go away and everyone would lead happy productive lives? All you'd do is force the crime in another direction.

At one point the "gangs" were bootleggers. When alcohol became legal again those guys didn't go straight and get 9-5 jobs, they moved into gambling and prostitution. Areas where those were legalized got into protection rackets, insurance scams, etc. Those guys moved into drugs and if drugs become legal then the gangs go on to running guns or new levels of extortion or whatever. If America reversed its drug policy tomorrow what happens to Baltimore? There's still no white tax base to pay for things, no businesses to provide jobs, no chance of turning things around without nuking half the city and starting completely from scratch.
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You make some good points, but "white tax base"? Atlanta is also heavily black and does just fine with taxes. A city needs good infrastructure, a decent and educated work force, and enough security to make investment worthwhile; it does not necessarily need a particular color distribution. A city of white welfare recipients will likely fail; a city of black professionals will likely prosper.

Nebor said:
I'm right there with him. All data I've seen suggests that both single mothers and their children are at a significant disadvantage in life by all performance metrics compared to 2-parent counterparts. That includes criminality, education, income & odds of becoming a single parent themselves.
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Agreed. Being a single parent is exponentially more difficult than being one of two.
 
Drako said:
I believe he's trolling, but I could be wrong.
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Please. This is just common sense missing from most intellectuals and those posing as such. These are probably the same people thinking children can raise themselves.

I can get a task finished with four arms and four legs faster and more efficiently than with two. Same goes for having more eyes to watch a child. It's a 24-7 job and energy is often at a premium.

A child having two parents is the goal, while also having a good extended family and neighbors/friends is the optimal situation
 
BurnItDwn said:
These riots have been due for many decades.
People can only take so much abuse before they lose patience.
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The question is who are the most abused ones?
Is it the people at home who can't leave, the business owners, the public paying taxes, or finally the people abused in police custody.

I don't see how the country can survive with numerous riots going out of control every year in our biggest cities.

Jim
 
xgsound said:
The question is who are the most abused ones?
Is it the people at home who can't leave, the business owners, the public paying taxes, or finally the people abused in police custody.

I don't see how the country can survive with numerous riots going out of control every year in our biggest cities.

Jim
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isnt it obvious?
Its the people who have run out of options. The ones who have nothing left to lose.
 
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