honestly.walmart synthetic vs. mobile 1

[waggy]

Originally posted by: ultravox
Do people honestly beleieve that Walmart has it's own refinery and puts out a cheaper sort of oil to sell in it's stores ?
Walmart gets it's oil from one of the major refineries and it is just labled for them. It's probably the same oil you're paying premium prices for in a service station. My sister and BIL both worked at a BP refinery and when Texaco ran out of super, who do you think they called? There is no such thing as cheap gas or oil it's all refined to the same specs it is just the point of sale that makes the difference.

yes. sadly people do actually belive walmart does such stuff.

 

[Ike0069]

Originally posted by: ultravox
Do people honestly beleieve that Walmart has it's own refinery and puts out a cheaper sort of oil to sell in it's stores ?
Walmart gets it's oil from one of the major refineries and it is just labled for them. It's probably the same oil you're paying premium prices for in a service station. My sister and BIL both worked at a BP refinery and when Texaco ran out of super, who do you think they called? There is no such thing as cheap gas or oil it's all refined to the same specs it is just the point of sale that makes the difference.

There in lies the problem.

Synthetic motor oil does not come from refineries, but from laboratories. It's synthetic, which simply means it's not made of a natural substance (i.e. oil). Yes, there are absolutley different grades of synthetic oil.

 

[Vic]

I think Wal-Mart brand oil is made by Murphy's.

 

[Tom]

walmart synthetic is made with people.

 

[kingtas]

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth

Originally posted by: kingtas
All I know is that my cars didn't leak oil until I put synthetic in them.

That isn't a problem with the oil.

Synthetics are usually more resistant to sludge build up etc. They also do not mix perfectly with conventional oil. Sure the two will dillute each other, but it isn't perfect.

Your car leaking oil means there is a problem with your seals somewhere, and the oil is getting through it. Those seals may have been sludged up before you ever added synthetic.

It is and it isn't... odds are that they probably would have continued to not leak if he'd kept using dino oil. I've always heard that it's generally a bad idea to switch to synthetic if your motor has a lot of miles on it for precisely this reason.

I edited my response because I had a bit of false information.

You are right, in a sense. If your car has a 100k miles and is running a little rough, but doesn't leak oil, putting synthetic in it isn't going to do you any good. It is sort of like painting a rotten board. The board is still rotten beneath the paint. The paint is going to just fall off with pieces of the wood. If the wood is brand new, the paint is going to protect it, and better paint will protect it more. But good paint over old paint that let the board rot a bit isn't going slow the rot.

Same thing, if your auto transmission is having problems a flush may kill it, but it wont hurt a brand new transmission.

It's trying to do to much to late.

I'd say both cars had about 50K miles at the time. The next oil change, I switched back to regular oil and the leaks stopped.

 

[amdskip]

Walmart dyno is quaker state I believe.

 

[jupiter57]

Originally posted by: amdskip
Walmart dyno is quaker state I believe.

Wal-Mart synthetic oil is most certainly made by one of the larger Oil Co.s, much as everything else Wal-Mart branded is made by the big name companies. If their dyno is in fact Quaker State, then chances are their Synth is also.
Look at the containers, quite possibly the WM container will be quite identical to the brand name oils container from the same manufacturer. Compare them all to see for sure.
Same way with any Store-Branded or "generic" consumable.

And BTW, 3000 mi. oil changes, while being safe to an extreme, are pretty much a waste of time and money. Go by your Manufacturers reccomendation or your DIC.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Tom
walmart synthetic is made with people.

Body Fat :laugh:

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: jupiter57

Originally posted by: amdskip
Walmart dyno is quaker state I believe.

Wal-Mart synthetic oil is most certainly made by one of the larger Oil Co.s, much as everything else Wal-Mart branded is made by the big name companies. If their dyno is in fact Quaker State, then chances are their Synth is also.
Look at the containers, quite possibly the WM container will be quite identical to the brand name oils container from the same manufacturer. Compare them all to see for sure.
Same way with any Store-Branded or "generic" consumable.

And BTW, 3000 mi. oil changes, while being safe to an extreme, are pretty much a waste of time and money. Go by your Manufacturers reccomendation or your DIC.

QFT

 

[SampSon]

I've only run dino oil in my subaru for its entire life so far.
Though a couple times I used some synth blend.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: amdskip
Walmart dyno is quaker state I believe.

Unlikely I think, as Quaker State is owned by Pennzoil (which in turn is owned by Shell) and is now more of a brand than an actual individual product.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: amdskip
Walmart dyno is quaker state I believe.

Unlikely I think, as Quaker State is owned by Pennzoil (which in turn is owned by Shell) and is now more of a brand than an actual individual product.

yeah it is. at least according to here.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: ultravox
Do people honestly beleieve that Walmart has it's own refinery and puts out a cheaper sort of oil to sell in it's stores ?
Walmart gets it's oil from one of the major refineries and it is just labled for them. It's probably the same oil you're paying premium prices for in a service station. My sister and BIL both worked at a BP refinery and when Texaco ran out of super, who do you think they called? There is no such thing as cheap gas or oil it's all refined to the same specs it is just the point of sale that makes the difference.

1) Even if the base oil is purchased from the same source, that does not mean the additive package is the same. That's kind of like saying because mcdonalds and innout buy their potatoes from the same place their fries are the same.

2) At bobistheoilguy.com, according to many people who run analysis setups there, M1 is the only retail available oil that is group 4. Most retail "synthetics" are group 3. Mobil sued Castrol over this because group 3 is essentially still a heavily processed dino product. Note that doesn't necessarily mean the realworld performance is significantly worse. M1 does generally have better specs than other retail synthetics, but again, that may not translate to better real world protection/performance.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: amdskip
Walmart dyno is quaker state I believe.

Unlikely I think, as Quaker State is owned by Pennzoil (which in turn is owned by Shell) and is now more of a brand than an actual individual product.

yeah it is. at least according to here.

Okay, it's Shell (SOPUS = Shell Oil Products US). Quaker State and Pennzoil are just a brand names for SOPUS now. Kind of like how I put Valvoline in my cars but that's really just a brand name for Ashland. So if Walmart oil was actually branded wholesale Ashland oil, I wouldn't call it Valvoline (even though I would use the 2 interchangably).

 

[SilthDraeth]

Anyways, even at the added cost of amsoil, you still save money by changing your oil only once a year.

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
Anyways, even at the added cost of amsoil, you still save money by changing your oil only once a year.

You forgot to mention that switching your vehicle to Amsoil will let you who have cars that require premium gas switch to regular gas and have increased mileage, too.

Jeff Bailey in Fulton, Mo., said his 1996 Lexus GS300 with 81,000 miles on it also gained fuel efficiency when he switched to AMSOIL motor oil.

"The car wants premium gasoline," he said. "I drive about 18,000 miles a year. I ordered your synthetic product and absolutely astounded.

"I was used to getting about 20 mpg overall and having a little low-rev torque."

Since switching to AMSOIL motor oil, Bailey gets 24 mpg and uses regular gasoline.

"The engine feels even more flexible," he said.

Taken from the Amsoil page you linked above.....I just didn't know changing brands of oil would change the fuel requirement of an engine........fantastic stuff!!!

Quoted from here..........
(About 2/3 down the page.)

 

[0roo0roo]

supertech? its fine i guess. i buy 1qt at 3bucks of synth to mix with the normal oil i toss in. my own synthetic blend i don't expect magic from it, but its certainly cheaper than buying a premade synthetic blend, those bottles never tell u how much synthetic is really in there so meh, i doubt its much at all. atleast with my way i know how much i mix in for the extra money i spend over straight cheap oil.

2-3k oil change is pretty overkill unless u race.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Tom
walmart synthetic is made with people.

no no no,..... walmart synthetic IS people!

 

[imported_vr6]

I used mobile 1 synthetic for my car and it runs fine. I get the one rated for 10k usage.

2000/Jetta/2.8VR6

going onto 130k no engine problems at all.

electronics on the other hand...

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: ncircle

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: ncircle

Originally posted by: Turin39789
if you change your oil every 2.5 - 3k why not just use dino?

the subaru will only take synthetic(or so im told)

Where did you hear that? What does the car do, stop and open a special valve to dump the bad oil out?

i am quite sure it would run on dino, i was just told synth only *shrug

RTFM. I bet it says dino is perfectly fine.

 

[imported_Trippin315]

Originally posted by: ncircle

Originally posted by: Turin39789
if you change your oil every 2.5 - 3k why not just use dino?

the subaru will only take synthetic(or so im told)

my WRX takes dino, but I put synth in because I drive like an arse all the time because I have a WRX.

 

[imported_Trippin315]

Originally posted by: ncircle

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: ncircle

Originally posted by: Turin39789
if you change your oil every 2.5 - 3k why not just use dino?

the subaru will only take synthetic(or so im told)

How often does the subaru manual tell you to change the oil?

3k iirc.

the guy at the dealship said every 3750 miles.

 

[Indyboy2]

thats wrong they both use a base oil after that is where the difference is.Synthectic oil is not made from scratch it still starts out with a base oil

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: amdskip
Walmart dyno is quaker state I believe.

Unlikely I think, as Quaker State is owned by Pennzoil (which in turn is owned by Shell) and is now more of a brand than an actual individual product.

yeah it is. at least according to here.

Okay, it's Shell (SOPUS = Shell Oil Products US). Quaker State and Pennzoil are just a brand names for SOPUS now. Kind of like how I put Valvoline in my cars but that's really just a brand name for Ashland. So if Walmart oil was actually branded wholesale Ashland oil, I wouldn't call it Valvoline (even though I would use the 2 interchangably).

Interesting. SO you're saying hte Shell Rotella stuff you get is the same as Pennzoil?

 

[Indyboy2]

Also you oil really never loses its lubricity it is the contaminents and combustion gases that the need for oil changes arises.Filtration is the key