Honda, Toyota Shatters All Time Sales Records in August - Europeans lose market share

[prontospyder]

Looks like GM, Ford and Chrysler will have to continue their 0% incentives to keep up.

Toyota Sales
Honda Sales
how the other manufacturers did in August

The Honda Accord also shattered all times sales records. Lot's of people are probably snapping up all those loss leader Accords.
August 2002 sales:
Honda Accord - 48,269 (up 21%)
Toyota Camry - 45,442 (up 27%)
Ford Taurus - 32,827 (up 17.6%)
Nissan Altima - 19,625 (up 96.7%)

Best Selling Car Title Race (YTD)
1. Toyota Camry - 309,618
2. Honda Accord - 271,024
3. Ford Taurus - 227,704

The '03 Accord will have lot's of catching up to do.

 

[iamwiz82]

DCX rose 26.7%

 

[prontospyder]

yep...seems like the Big 3 all had higher sales. But I don't think the sales figures would be that rosy without their 0% financing deals.

GM, Chrysler Extends 0% Financing to Oct. 31st

 

[Imported]

Originally posted by: prontospyder
Looks like GM, Ford and Chrysler will have to continue their 0% incentives to keep up.

Toyota Sales
Honda Sales
how the other manufacturers did in August

The Honda Accord also shattered all times sales records. Lot's of people are probably snapping up all those loss leader Accords.
August 2002 sales:
Honda Accord - 48,269 (up 21%)
Toyota Camry - 45,442 (up 27%)
Ford Taurus - 32,827 (up 17.6%)
Nissan Altima - 19,625 (up 96.7%)

:Q Was the Altima that bad before it's redesign? :Q

 

[Rallispec]

Nissan Altima - 19,625 (up 96.7%)




w00t

 

[RossMAN]

The Nissan Altima is on fiyah but it still has a ways to go.

I'll tell ya Honda Accord's are selling like crazy, I have helped over 20 people locally buy new Honda Accord LX automatics for $15,444 out the door! Most the Honda dealerships we visit are OUT OF STOCK on LX's only have DX, VP and EX's left. A few SE's are here and there.

 

[prontospyder]

I'll tell ya Honda Accord's are selling like crazy, I have helped over 20 people locally buy new Honda Accord LX automatics for $15,444 out the door!

Wow..that's cool! So did you accompany all 20 people to the dealerships? I don't think I can handle dealing with the dealership that many times in such a short period of time.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
The Nissan Altima is on fiyah but it still has a ways to go.

I'll tell ya Honda Accord's are selling like crazy, I have helped over 20 people locally buy new Honda Accord LX automatics for $15,444 out the door! Most the Honda dealerships we visit are OUT OF STOCK on LX's only have DX, VP and EX's left. A few SE's are here and there.

Did you get any sort of kickbacks from the dealer? A couple dealers around here will give you $50-$100 in cash for every person you refer their way.

 

[keystroker]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
The Nissan Altima is on fiyah but it still has a ways to go.

I'll tell ya Honda Accord's are selling like crazy, I have helped over 20 people locally buy new Honda Accord LX automatics for $15,444 out the door! Most the Honda dealerships we visit are OUT OF STOCK on LX's only have DX, VP and EX's left. A few SE's are here and there.

glad you're helping out the elderly

 

[CraigRT]

new camry's are so ugly.. why do they sell so well?

 

[NFS4]

Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that Honda will have drastically reduced profits this year?? They are basically giving away Accords to retain the #1 sales lead. However, Toyota doesn't give rebates or lowball on their Camry. The base price of a Camry is around $19,700 with the average Camry going out the door for around $21,000 - $22,000.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Yield
new camry's are so ugly.. why do they sell so well?

If they were ugly, they wouldn't sell (Pontiac Aztek, Isuzu Axiom). Camrys are just made to look SO plain that they can't possibly offend NE1 one way or the other (although the current styling is a "bit" sportier than before). Couple that with Toyota's reputation and they sell like hot cakes.

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: Yield
new camry's are so ugly.. why do they sell so well?

Because the old one is uglier.

 

[RossMAN]

prontospyder - Are you kidding? I couldn't handle dealing with car dealers on 20 transactions within a month. I accompanied a few to help them buy a new car, if they weren't a close friend/co-worker I charged them an undisclosed fee for my "services" (which is a joke if you think about it, loss leaders are so easy if you understand the basic concept, what to ask for, what to demand, what to say, etc.). Those I didn't accompany I showed them what a loss leader ad looked like and coached them on what to do. Most of them bought a loss leader car successfully, a few were talked into paying close to sticker, extended warranties, etc.


vi_edit - I wish. Dealers do offer referrals but only if you refer someone who pays close to sticker (e.g. NOT a loss leader ad price). The dealers barely put up with me only because I'm giving them free sales.

 

[prontospyder]

<<Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that Honda will have drastically reduced profits this year?? They are basically giving away Accords to retain the #1 sales lead. >>

I think Honda is using the fat profits from the Odyssey, Pilot, and MDX (which sell at or above MSRP) to make up for the losses. They're also counting on the '03 Accord to sell at MSRP which I doubt will happen for long due to intense competition (Camry, Altima, 6).

 

[prontospyder]

Top 20 Selling Autos Through August 2002

Vehicle Aug-02 Aug-01 Yr. Ago Pct.
Rank Chg.
1 Ford F-Series pickup 557,973 576,069 1 -3.1
2 Chevy Silverado-C/K pickup 437,901 445,471 2 -1.7
3 Toyota Camry 309,618 264,635 5 +17.0
4 Ford Explorer 285,655 271,565 4 +5.2
5 Honda Accord 271,024 288,402 3 -6.0
6 Dodge Ram pickup 269,395 236,842 7 +13.7
7 Ford Taurus 227,704 252,779 6 -9.9
8 Honda Civic 216,128 229,633 8 -5.9
9 Chevrolet Cavalier 181,175 156,532 13 +15.7
10 Dodge Caravan 180,288 170,732 11 +5.6
11 Toyota Corolla 168,561 162,410 12 +3.8
12 Chevy TrailBlazer 165,208 42,935 N/A +284.8
13 Ford Ranger pickup 164,873 198,364 9 -16.9
14 Ford Focus 164,036 176,954 10 -7.3
15 Chevrolet Tahoe 149,963 128,186 18 +17.0
16 Jeep Grand Cherokee 146,763 142,539 14 +3.0
17 Nissan Altima 139,502 96,216 N/A +45.0
18 GMC Sierra pickup 134,307 126,957 19 +5.8
19 Chevrolet Impala 131,429 133,119 15 -1.3
20 Chevrolet Malibu 122,095 131,437 17 -7.1

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
prontospyder - Are you kidding? I couldn't handle dealing with car dealers on 20 transactions within a month. I accompanied a few to help them buy a new car, if they weren't a close friend/co-worker I charged them an undisclosed fee for my "services" (which is a joke if you think about it, loss leaders are so easy if you understand the basic concept, what to ask for, what to demand, what to say, etc.). Those I didn't accompany I showed them what a loss leader ad looked like and coached them on what to do. Most of them bought a loss leader car successfully, a few were talked into paying close to sticker, extended warranties, etc.


vi_edit - I wish. Dealers do offer referrals but only if you refer someone who pays close to sticker (e.g. NOT a loss leader ad price). The dealers barely put up with me only because I'm giving them free sales.

Please teach us the zen ways of buying a car dirt cheap, thnx

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: RossMAN
prontospyder - Are you kidding? I couldn't handle dealing with car dealers on 20 transactions within a month. I accompanied a few to help them buy a new car, if they weren't a close friend/co-worker I charged them an undisclosed fee for my "services" (which is a joke if you think about it, loss leaders are so easy if you understand the basic concept, what to ask for, what to demand, what to say, etc.). Those I didn't accompany I showed them what a loss leader ad looked like and coached them on what to do. Most of them bought a loss leader car successfully, a few were talked into paying close to sticker, extended warranties, etc.


vi_edit - I wish. Dealers do offer referrals but only if you refer someone who pays close to sticker (e.g. NOT a loss leader ad price). The dealers barely put up with me only because I'm giving them free sales.

Please teach us the zen ways of buying a car dirt cheap, thnx

I've already taught you people how to fish, use the search feature ... search in the Hot Deals and Off Topic forums for posts by RossMAN mentioning loss leader in the body of the thread or just click
here.

 

[charliebrown]

Originally posted by: RossMAN

I'll tell ya Honda Accord's are selling like crazy, I have helped over 20 people locally buy new Honda Accord LX automatics for $15,444 out the door! Most the Honda dealerships we visit are OUT OF STOCK on LX's only have DX, VP and EX's left. A few SE's are here and there.

Damn that is CHEAP - what was the price before tax title & license? Where are you located?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: charliebrown

Originally posted by: RossMAN

I'll tell ya Honda Accord's are selling like crazy, I have helped over 20 people locally buy new Honda Accord LX automatics for $15,444 out the door! Most the Honda dealerships we visit are OUT OF STOCK on LX's only have DX, VP and EX's left. A few SE's are here and there.

Damn that is CHEAP - what was the price before tax title & license? Where are you located?

Heh, this is in Oregon...

Tax: $0 :Q
Title & License: $42.50 for 2 years
plus $35 "administrative fee" for the dealer to do the paperwork

License renewals are $30 every 2 years plus ~$20 for smog

edit: I've been thinking about this Accord deals too... I could trade in my paid-off 4.5 year old Acura w/70k miles straight across for a brand-new Accord... the mind boggles

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: charliebrown

Originally posted by: RossMAN

I'll tell ya Honda Accord's are selling like crazy, I have helped over 20 people locally buy new Honda Accord LX automatics for $15,444 out the door! Most the Honda dealerships we visit are OUT OF STOCK on LX's only have DX, VP and EX's left. A few SE's are here and there.

Damn that is CHEAP - what was the price before tax title & license? Where are you located?

Portland, Oregon where we have ZERO SALES TAX and apparently AWESOME deals on new cars and I mean AWESOME!

The 2002 Honda Accord LX automatic price of $15,444 includes the $495 destination fee, the title/license/administrative fees are an extra $113 though.

PSYWVic - If you can get a sweet deal on a 2002 LX then do it, otherwise I'd get a 2003. Where abouts in Portland do you live?

 

[puffpio]

Yeah but you're not allowed to pump your own gas in Oregon >: (

 

[mithrandir2001]

Originally posted by: prontospyder
Top 20 Selling Autos Through August 2002

Vehicle Aug-02 Aug-01 Yr. Ago Pct.
Rank Chg.
1 Ford F-Series pickup 557,973 576,069 1 -3.1
2 Chevy Silverado-C/K pickup 437,901 445,471 2 -1.7
3 Toyota Camry 309,618 264,635 5 +17.0
4 Ford Explorer 285,655 271,565 4 +5.2
5 Honda Accord 271,024 288,402 3 -6.0
6 Dodge Ram pickup 269,395 236,842 7 +13.7
7 Ford Taurus 227,704 252,779 6 -9.9
8 Honda Civic 216,128 229,633 8 -5.9
9 Chevrolet Cavalier 181,175 156,532 13 +15.7
10 Dodge Caravan 180,288 170,732 11 +5.6
11 Toyota Corolla 168,561 162,410 12 +3.8
12 Chevy TrailBlazer 165,208 42,935 N/A +284.8
13 Ford Ranger pickup 164,873 198,364 9 -16.9
14 Ford Focus 164,036 176,954 10 -7.3
15 Chevrolet Tahoe 149,963 128,186 18 +17.0
16 Jeep Grand Cherokee 146,763 142,539 14 +3.0
17 Nissan Altima 139,502 96,216 N/A +45.0
18 GMC Sierra pickup 134,307 126,957 19 +5.8
19 Chevrolet Impala 131,429 133,119 15 -1.3
20 Chevrolet Malibu 122,095 131,437 17 -7.1

If they would only produce a list that stripped out fleet and commercial sales. IOW, just individual "walk-up" purchases.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: pio!pio!
Yeah but you're not allowed to pump your own gas in Oregon >: (

Who the hell wants to get out in the rain and cold to pump gas anyway?

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: PSYWVic

Originally posted by: pio!pio!
Yeah but you're not allowed to pump your own gas in Oregon >: (

Who the hell wants to get out in the rain and cold to pump gas anyway?

I do.