Honda Fuel Economy

[evident]

Originally posted by: BassBomb
I have 2007 Accord EX-L 4cyl

I get 39MPG going 100km/h (speed limit) all highway
I get 30MPG going 140km/h all highway

My Civic was doing 33MPG @ 140km/h same route

39mpg on your accord? highest i've ever gotten was 36mpg but that was going 55 mph all highway in 75 degree weather. my commute requires that i drive 65-75 mph mostly so it's tough to get that high

 

[BassBomb]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: BassBomb
I have 2007 Accord EX-L 4cyl

I get 39MPG going 100km/h (speed limit) all highway
I get 30MPG going 140km/h all highway

My Civic was doing 33MPG @ 140km/h same route

39mpg on your accord? highest i've ever gotten was 36mpg but that was going 55 mph all highway in 75 degree weather. my commute requires that i drive 65-75 mph mostly so it's tough to get that high

Yeah I got about 6.0 L/100km which translates to 39MPG when going 62mph. I was behind alot of 18wheelers so that could have had an affect. I was just testing how good I could get it for kicks

 

[cheesehead]

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Yeah I got about 6.0 L/100km which translates to 39MPG when going 62mph. I was behind alot of 18wheelers so that could have had an affect. I was just testing how good I could get it for kicks

American gallons or British gallons?

That said, a combination of careful speed regulation and slipstreaming can do a lot to boost fuel economy.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Cheesehead

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Gearing. When you're turning 3,000 RPM at 60mph you're going to use more fuel than the big sedan that's only turning 2,100 RPM

Yep. On the other hand, the light weight and low drag of the Fit make it much more practical for its' primary purpose - hauling groceries around town.

That said, I'd much rather have a 4-door civic hatchback.

You're spot-on about the Fit being designed to be a city car.

To be fair, at 35 mph in town drag really is not a huge player. In town, the same gearing that hurts the Fit on the freeway helps it a lot. If you're never going to really take a freeway trip in it, the Fit is a great little car because it is geared for city driving, not freeway cruising.

ZV

 

[adlep]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
using the new ratings the 2006 accord manual does 23/31.

Still, 27/34 for 09 Fit is not much different than the Accord.

Difference of only ~4 miles city and ~3 miles in the highway.

Again, considering that the Accord's engine has 900 cc bigger displacement and it weights 500 lb more, that does not seem to be that much of a diff.
On the other hand, what Zenmervolt have said shine some extra light into the matter...
🙂

Edit:
In regards to the gearing, it would make more sense then to offer a 6 speed manual as a standard versus 5-speed manual...?

For example, my Accord hums at 3000RPMs at 75MPH (typical cruising speed)...
Give it a 6th gear and the RPMs on the engine could drop by 300~400 revs saving the fuel and putting LESS stress on the engine...
So is the 6 speed man that much MORE complicated than the 5speed man?

 

[adlep]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Cheesehead

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Gearing. When you're turning 3,000 RPM at 60mph you're going to use more fuel than the big sedan that's only turning 2,100 RPM

Yep. On the other hand, the light weight and low drag of the Fit make it much more practical for its' primary purpose - hauling groceries around town.

That said, I'd much rather have a 4-door civic hatchback.

You're spot-on about the Fit being designed to be a city car.

To be fair, at 35 mph in town drag really is not a huge player. In town, the same gearing that hurts the Fit on the freeway helps it a lot. If you're never going to really take a freeway trip in it, the Fit is a great little car because it is geared for city driving, not freeway cruising.

ZV

This is so interesting with the gearing...
I must do some more research about it... Is there something out there that is just a "perfect" transmission?
What about the CVT? Why do you think it is not more common in vehicles. AFAIK, Nissan is the only one using it...

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: swtethan
Yeah.... I cant get 30mpg in my civic si.

even on the highway? i get 32mpg with 4 passengers / luggage, and my sedan weighs more than your coupe by a bit. i'm not going easy on it either, i probably average 70mph

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: vi edit
I'm still happy that my crusty old SOHC 3.5L GM cast iron clunker mated to an archaic 4 speed transmission is able to pull 32MPG with ease @ 65MPH.

Yea, I've got one in my '05 'Bu, gets about that on the highway and 22-24 in town. Not too bad for a 200HP powerplant, I think it's not OHC however it's "cam in block" or pushrod style engine..

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: adlep

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Cheesehead

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Gearing. When you're turning 3,000 RPM at 60mph you're going to use more fuel than the big sedan that's only turning 2,100 RPM

Yep. On the other hand, the light weight and low drag of the Fit make it much more practical for its' primary purpose - hauling groceries around town.

That said, I'd much rather have a 4-door civic hatchback.

You're spot-on about the Fit being designed to be a city car.

To be fair, at 35 mph in town drag really is not a huge player. In town, the same gearing that hurts the Fit on the freeway helps it a lot. If you're never going to really take a freeway trip in it, the Fit is a great little car because it is geared for city driving, not freeway cruising.

ZV

This is so interesting with the gearing...
I must do some more research about it... Is there something out there that is just a "perfect" transmission?
What about the CVT? Why do you think it is not more common in vehicles. AFAIK, Nissan is the only one using it...

CVT sounds like ass to anyone who's even been used to anything else.

That, and it feels like your car is connected to the road by a magic box full of rubber-bands 😉

In any event my recollection is that even a few years ago six-speed V8 commodores and falcons were turning about 1600rpm in 6th at 110kmh, nice and economical if you've got the torque to pull it off...

I do recall at one stage that Holden had to back-off on the lean burn in 6th, perhaps for emissions and temperature reasons?

 

[desy]

The Ford Freestyle had cvt
My Versa doesn't, it has the 4 speed auto and I get 32 mixed driving.
A lot of the guys with CVT's get worse instead of better, but driving a cvt is different and most of them have trouble with the concept

I chose it over the Fit cause we do a lot of HW driving and its better for that, and with the kids it has a huge passenger cabin. Also in 07 it was safer than the Fit cause it came with more airbags standard. Also I didn't care for the styling of the old Fit, just like an Aveo.
A Civic costs more initially too and that will factor in.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: adlep

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Cheesehead

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Gearing. When you're turning 3,000 RPM at 60mph you're going to use more fuel than the big sedan that's only turning 2,100 RPM

Yep. On the other hand, the light weight and low drag of the Fit make it much more practical for its' primary purpose - hauling groceries around town.

That said, I'd much rather have a 4-door civic hatchback.

You're spot-on about the Fit being designed to be a city car.

To be fair, at 35 mph in town drag really is not a huge player. In town, the same gearing that hurts the Fit on the freeway helps it a lot. If you're never going to really take a freeway trip in it, the Fit is a great little car because it is geared for city driving, not freeway cruising.

ZV

This is so interesting with the gearing...
I must do some more research about it... Is there something out there that is just a "perfect" transmission?
What about the CVT? Why do you think it is not more common in vehicles. AFAIK, Nissan is the only one using it...

CVT is only "continuously variable" within a set range, there's still a lowest possible and highest possible ratio and the overall spread between those two isn't all that different from the spread on 5-6 speed manuals so you still end up with the final drive ratio determining a lot. And you're still limited by what the engine can use. If you put the Fit's engine in a car that had gearing like the Corvette, the result would be terrible because the gearing would be way to tall for the limited torque of the Fit's engine.

ZV

 

[NaOH]

I avg 24 in the city and 30+1-2 on highway in my GTI. It's weird because my civic got about the same. I actually think the GTI gets better mileage on my trips where I have to go up and down the grapevine because I would essentially have to mash the gas pedal in the civic.