Honda FCX Clarity

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: CptCrunch
Originally posted by: andylawcc

Therefore, only customers currently residing in the Torrance, Santa Monica and Irvine areas who meet additional qualification criteria will be eligible to take an FCX Clarity home

whoa, uber yuppie factor +10

and at $600 a month, major yuppie factor

I, for one, welcome our new water spitting four-wheel overlord. I'd also gladly pay for one if they let me; all in due time, all in due time.
 

preslove

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I'm pretty skeptical about hydrogen. I think we'll think we're much more likely to use full electrics than hydrogen cars.
 

GTaudiophile

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Originally posted by: preslove
I'm pretty skeptical about hydrogen. I think we'll think we're much more likely to use full electrics than hydrogen cars.

The energy required to produce liquid hydrogen is pretty massive...requiring more fossil fuels than the cars save. At least that is what I have heard.
 

FleshLight

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Yeah I live in Irvine and in the engineering area, we have this huge ass hydrogen tank right next to the National Fuel Cell Research Center.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: preslove
I'm pretty skeptical about hydrogen. I think we'll think we're much more likely to use full electrics than hydrogen cars.

The energy required to produce liquid hydrogen is pretty massive...requiring more fossil fuels than the cars save. At least that is what I have heard.

Yeah, that's the rational reason. But the economic reason, I think, is that it is a whole lot easier to develop fast charging battery technology and just equip car parks or current gas stations with electrical outlets, than it is to deploy hydrogen all over the US.
 

theeedude

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Isn't Honda going to make a regular eletrical hybrid that looks like that car to compete with the Primus?
Or is it only gonna be Hydrogen powered?
BTW, hydrogen cars are the bomb :)
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Isn't Honda going to make a regular eletrical hybrid that looks like that car to compete with the Primus?
Or is it only gonna be Hydrogen powered?
BTW, hydrogen cars are the bomb :)

The is already the Civic and Accord Hybrids, but they seem to offer only marginal improvements over their already gas-efficient conventional counterparts for the premium markup.

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
BMW has had a 7-series running on Hydrogen for a couple years now.

There was a 2003 and 2005 FCX as well, but this 2007 version seems to be the largest push for early adopters by Honda. Honda has more hydrogen stations overseas.
 

tboo

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Dont hydrogen powered cars have to have super high pressure tanks? Like 5000-10000 psi?
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: senseamp
Isn't Honda going to make a regular eletrical hybrid that looks like that car to compete with the Primus?
Or is it only gonna be Hydrogen powered?
BTW, hydrogen cars are the bomb :)

The is already the Civic and Accord Hybrids, but they seem to offer only marginal improvements over their already gas-efficient conventional counterparts for the premium markup.

the accord was a performance hybrid. a friend's first gen civic hybrid with automatic or cvt (can't remember which), gets 47 mpg over his commute.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: preslove
I'm pretty skeptical about hydrogen. I think we'll think we're much more likely to use full electrics than hydrogen cars.

The energy required to produce liquid hydrogen is pretty massive...requiring more fossil fuels than the cars save. At least that is what I have heard.

Not to mention it would need a new distribution infrastructure.

I think charge-it-at-home electrics, hybrids and combinations thereof are the most practical. And we could either grow a pair and build more nuclear power plants or just continue burning good old American coal to fuel them.

I don't even think fast charging is a concern or in the realm of possibility (right now) though. If you could do an overnight charge and get to and from work on a western distance commute you could basically use no gasoline.
 

EarthwormJim

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: preslove
I'm pretty skeptical about hydrogen. I think we'll think we're much more likely to use full electrics than hydrogen cars.

The energy required to produce liquid hydrogen is pretty massive...requiring more fossil fuels than the cars save. At least that is what I have heard.

Not to mention it would need a new distribution infrastructure.

I think charge-it-at-home electrics, hybrids and combinations thereof are the most practical. And we could either grow a pair and build more nuclear power plants or just continue burning good old American coal to fuel them.

I don't even think fast charging is a concern or in the realm of possibility (right now) though. If you could do an overnight charge and get to and from work on a western distance commute you could basically use no gasoline.

Fast charging makes regenerative braking practical. That's one huge benefit for it. Maybe they could augment the battery with some big capacitors. Allowing you to capture that energy, then charge the batteries at the rates they can be charged.

Most of the time an overnight charge isn't an issue, however if you're going on a 500 or even an 800 mile roadtrip, you're kinda screwed if the car takes 8 hours to recharge and only goes 400 miles per charge.