Honda Elysion Concept

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Honda Japan Introduces New Elysion Mini-van

Gah! Civic SI style shifter. It seriously looks like it took a step back in terms of design (exterior I mean)

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

I'm sure Honda will pull out all stops in this one. But there's a problem, in the minivan war between Honda and Toyota, each sucessive generation keeps on getting more features and more expensive. They gotta think about the people who buy these contraptions for basic transportation too.

What are you talking about?

Prices of key competitors' minivans have dropped, forcing Ford to consider following suit. Toyota started the price cutting when it introduced its redesigned Sienna last spring at a base price nearly $1,000 lower than its previous version. Then in February, the Chrysler group cut prices on its re-engineered minivans by an average of $3,000.

http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=01055266

A well equipped Sienna is $42k CDN before taxes. That's pretty expensive, it compares to a G35 in that price range (I know, two different cars..but still..a minivan being as expensive as an entry level luxury car?). The Seinna with all options can hit $52k CDN before taxes. That's mighty expensive...and a far cry from the 2002 Seinna that only costed $38k CDN fully loaded.

My point was that as vans get more feature laden to outdo the competition, their prices will increase as well.

It's happened in the economy car segment already. Remember how cheap Corollas and Civics used to be in the early 90s? They were simple and affordable. Now they have become more expensive and more luxurious, and can't really be considered cheap econo transporation anymore. But that's ok because then the companies started coming out with even cheaper and simpler cars such as the Echo, the Accent, Aveo, etc..

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

I'm sure Honda will pull out all stops in this one. But there's a problem, in the minivan war between Honda and Toyota, each sucessive generation keeps on getting more features and more expensive. They gotta think about the people who buy these contraptions for basic transportation too.

What are you talking about?

Prices of key competitors' minivans have dropped, forcing Ford to consider following suit. Toyota started the price cutting when it introduced its redesigned Sienna last spring at a base price nearly $1,000 lower than its previous version. Then in February, the Chrysler group cut prices on its re-engineered minivans by an average of $3,000.

http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=01055266

A well equipped Sienna is $42k CDN before taxes. That's pretty expensive, it compares to a G35 in that price range (I know, two different cars..but still..a minivan being as expensive as an entry level luxury car?). The Seinna with all options can hit $52k CDN before taxes. That's mighty expensive...and a far cry from the 2002 Seinna that only costed $38k CDN fully loaded.

My point was that as vans get more feature laden to outdo the competition, their prices will increase as well.

It's happened in the economy car segment already. Remember how cheap Corollas and Civics used to be in the early 90s? They were simple and affordable. Now they have become more expensive and more luxurious, and can't really be considered cheap econo transporation anymore. But that's ok because then the companies started coming out with even cheaper and simpler cars such as the Echo, the Accent, Aveo, etc..

You can't just pinpoint minivans then - vehicles as a whole are getting more expensive. Simply put - people want more sh!t in their car. Better stereos, LCDs in the headrest/in the roof, dvd player, navigation, HID, body kit, rims, etc etc etc. You can still get cheap Corollas and Civics - just some bare assed no frills car that no one wants. People were fine with it 10-15 years ago - not anymore.

 

[bolido2000]

That car is HIDEOUS. It looks like a JDM Toyota minivan (don't remember which one). Nevertheless...hondas interiors are getting pretty sweet.

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: BigSmooth
Don't care for the totally flat roofline and the blackout A-pillar. Plus the large rear window makes the D-pillar look funky (as seen in the third picture).
I like the front end (as one of the posters there mentioned, it looks Mazda-esque).

Of course, minivans aren't about looks. The current Odyssey is still a market leader and if the new one is as functional & innovative, it will sell like hotcakes no matter what it looks like.

It's gonna take a lot to compete with the new Sienna. Honda better bring out AWD, power liftgate, backup camera, adaptive cruise control and fold-flat 2nd and 3rd row seats.

Since you're the stats king, do you know if the new Sienna is selling like hotcakes?

#2 in sales behind the Caravan

The Caravan is still number one??? HOW? It's unrefined, makes odd noises under braking or going over bumps. A 3 year old Caravan makes odd noises when you change gears and the engine is loud.

The only redeeming feature about the Caravan is the neat stow-away seats. It's quite an engineering feat (to my simple mind anyway).

The interior in this Odyssey replacement looks beautiful. It blows away the Sienna's interior in looks. Look at those guages and center console. Very nice.

I'm sure Honda will pull out all stops in this one. But there's a problem, in the minivan war between Honda and Toyota, each sucessive generation keeps on getting more features and more expensive. They gotta think about the people who buy these contraptions for basic transportation too.

(1) You can get Caravans for under $20,000
(2) MOPAR throws insane amounts of incentives at their minivans
(3) Rental and fleet sales
(4) Strangely enough, owner loyalty (even with the reliablility issues like failed trannies)

(4)..I've seen that. My friends parents are on their 3rd Caravan platform (they now have a Town&Country). Anyway, the first two Caravans they had crapped out on them numerous times. I think they must swapped tranny's atleast 4 times on those two vans in total. Yet when it came time to replace their van, they bought the Town &Country. Odd. You'd think after the first time, you'd stop buying them.

I dunno wat kind of mojo Chrylser has, but it sure worked on the customers.

My dad is on his 2nd Caravan (used 94). He buys is for hauling stuff/people, not for luxury. Plus hes a mechanic so he fix what ever problem it has (hasn't been much).

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: bolido2000
That car is HIDEOUS. It looks like a JDM Toyota minivan (don't remember which one). Nevertheless...hondas interiors are getting pretty sweet.

I agree on the interior part 😛

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: edro13
That looks awesome!






...for a minivan... 😀

Indeed.

 

[fs5]

did they have spare prelude taillights or something they need to get rid of? 😕