Honda Civic Hybid

[raildogg]

I am like this car a lot now, given its style and fuel savings. Love the interior and the exterior is nice, and the Hybrid has those unique rims. In the past I've heard that they are selling for over the price listed, but not so much lately.

Anyone driven this car before? Does it feel involving? I think I have to go for a test drive.

 

[shortspanishguy]

I just bought a 2005 Civic Hybrid for $18,600 with 12,000 miles on it. I get an avg. of 48 mpg.

So far I love the car.

 

[raildogg]

Hmm, I am not interested in something that I could race with, just need a car that is fun to drive and gets over 40mpg. I think the Civic Hybrid should be the best bet.

 

[radioouman]

You NEED a car that gets of 40 mpg?

Do the math. Buy a nice used car and you'll save more than you would buying a new hybrid.

But that's my opinion.

 

[woowoo]

Originally posted by: radioouman
You NEED a car that gets of 40 mpg?

.

Everyone NEEDS a +40 mpg car.

 

[Viper GTS]

I have to wonder what gas prices tanking is going to do to hybrid sales. If hybrids didn't make financial sense with $3/gal gas they're REALLY not going to make sense when gas bottoms out south of $2.

As for people "needing" 40 mpg cars I get along fine with my 25 mpg car. Reducing my gas bill by 60% won't save me anywhere NEAR what I'd have to spend to buy a newer car.

Viper GTS

 

[woowoo]

I think there is still going to be some momentum in sales.
It's not just the money, you know they do help clean the air too.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I have to wonder what gas prices tanking is going to do to hybrid sales. If hybrids didn't make financial sense with $3/gal gas they're REALLY not going to make sense when gas bottoms out south of $2.

As for people "needing" 40 mpg cars I get along fine with my 25 mpg car. Reducing my gas bill by 60% won't save me anywhere NEAR what I'd have to spend to buy a newer car.

Viper GTS

No, but if you are in the market for a new car already, a Hybrid might make more snese.

 

[magomago]

nice

Yeah I wonder how much gas we would all save if everyone drove a car with 25MPG city using a more accurate method than the simple test that the EPA uses.

 

[SlowSpyder]

It's not just the money, you know they do help clean the air too.

As far as I understand hybrids don't do anything for the environment better then conventional cars. The only reason you should buy them is to save money on gas (tax breaks too?). Remember those lead acid batteries have to be replaced every so often. I imagine that building a hybrid creates more pollution then a conventional car as well. Not too long ago someone posted a link here that showed that a hybrid civic actually used more energy throughout it's life then some SUV's.

*edit here it is: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/01/new-...onsume-less-energy-over-lifetime-than/

 

[woowoo]

As far as I understand hybrids don't do anything for the environment better then conventional cars.

Less gas consumed = less polution
Batteries can be recycled.


(Hugs tree)

 

[Ime]

Wife and I test drove a Hybrid, we liked the car... but it was $500 more than a LX Civic which seemed just as good.

We wouldn't save $5,000 over the life of the car in gas.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Biggest reason I can see people getting it is that it lets people into the carpool lane without carpooling. (which, IMO, is f'ing retarded)

 

[SlowSpyder]

Less gas consumed = less polution
Batteries can be recycled.

Yea, better fuel economy will equal less pollution. But, some batteries may be recycled (takes energy, creates pollution). When a battery is scraped or the car is at the end of it's life and the batteries are not fit for recycling they must be disposed of (more pollution). A hybrid car uses all the energy that building and disposing of a standard car does plus more for the electric components and battery. There's more to the equation then just fuel economy. Read the link in my above post. Hybrids save money on fuel costs, but they aren't as 'green' as people make them out to be.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Biggest reason I can see people getting it is that it lets people into the carpool lane without carpooling. (which, IMO, is f'ing retarded)

If they get 50 mpg with one person, that's the equivalent of 2 people carpooling, rather than each taking their 25mpg cars separately, no?

I'm not seeing the retardation here. Car pools lanes were created to entice people to save gas, no?

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder

It's not just the money, you know they do help clean the air too.

As far as I understand hybrids don't do anything for the environment better then conventional cars. The only reason you should buy them is to save money on gas (tax breaks too?). Remember those lead acid batteries have to be replaced every so often. I imagine that building a hybrid creates more pollution then a conventional car as well. Not too long ago someone posted a link here that showed that a hybrid civic actually used more energy throughout it's life then some SUV's.

*edit here it is: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/01/new-...onsume-less-energy-over-lifetime-than/

look very closely at the date

 

[Trikat]

For you guys saying it isn't worth it financially you are right, but you also get favorable karma from the gas you save!
Wheeeeeeee!
I personally wouldn't mind having a really efficient car as a daily driver

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Biggest reason I can see people getting it is that it lets people into the carpool lane without carpooling. (which, IMO, is f'ing retarded)

Yeah, i think that's pretty retarded as well considering that hybrid saves more gas in stop and go traffic. When it's moving at a constant high speed all it does is use gas power.

 

[woowoo]

From the linked article:

"While the study's findings don't take issue with what vehicles are more financially economical to own (read: those with better mileage), it does pose some interesting questions about total energy usage in hybrids."

And:

"Obviously, in order to best judge the merit of CNW's findings, a clearer explanation of the study's criteria and processes is in order."

Sounds like marketing to me.

 

[SlowSpyder]

look very closely at the date

I don't believe it was a hoax.

http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/

http://www.dieselnet.com/news/2006/04cnw.php

http://thewatt.com/article-1070-nested-1-0.html

http://www.automotive.com/features/90/auto-news/19482/index.html

 

[SlowSpyder]

Woowoo, I've said all along that you'll save money on gas. I'm not even saying that hybrids are not greener then regular cars, I'm no expert and that study is hardly absolutely 100% definitive. I'm just saying that they aren't nearly as green as so many people think they are if you look at the big picture. There's a lot more to consider then just fuel economy.

 

[JulesMaximus]

A good friend of mine has one. He and his wife paid a $5k dealer markup on the car though. That was about 8-9 months ago in SoCal. Demand is high for them here because you can drive them in the carpool lanes even with only one person in the car.

It's a nice car. Slow as hell but it drives like any other econobox except that it gets 48mpg.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Biggest reason I can see people getting it is that it lets people into the carpool lane without carpooling. (which, IMO, is f'ing retarded)

If they get 50 mpg with one person, that's the equivalent of 2 people carpooling, rather than each taking their 25mpg cars separately, no?

I'm not seeing the retardation here. Car pools lanes were created to entice people to save gas, no?

The point of car pool lanes was to reduce traffic congestion and reduce the need for building more/new highways. I don't care if you get infinate MPG you still take up the same amount of space. I don't mind motorcycles because they take up much less road space than a car in heavy traffic conditions. The reduced emmissions part was just an added bonus.