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Homo politicus:10-20-07 J.K. Rowling outs Hogwarts character

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Well what about Fiction?

How does the Gay gene fit into a story?

10-20-2007J.K. Rowling outs Hogwarts character

NEW YORK - Harry Potter fans, the rumors are true: Albus Dumbledore, master wizard and Headmaster of Hogwarts, is gay. J.K. Rowling, author of the mega-selling fantasy series that ended last summer, outed the beloved character Friday night while appearing before a full house at Carnegie Hall.

Rowling told the audience that while working on the planned sixth Potter film, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," she spotted a reference in the script to a girl who once was of interest to Dumbledore.

A note was duly passed to director David Yates, revealing the truth about her character.
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Now it will be interesting to see if Potter is banned in the U.S.

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This is an interesting study.

Reminds me of the great Gay gene debate on whether it is a choice or built in.

So what does this mean for the future of America or Democracy?

Democracy is inheritly designed to be the free exchange of the will of the people while an Autocracy/Theocracy is the people are controlled by a higher power.

With Conservatives apparently hardwired with the AT gene (Autocracy/Theocracy) that is obviously not just anti-Democratic but anti-American.

Now what?

9-10-2007 Homo politicus: brain function of liberals, conservatives differs

The brain neurons of liberals and conservatives fire differently when confronted with tough choices, suggesting that some political divides may be hard-wired, according a study released Sunday.

Aristotle may have been more on the mark than he realised when he said that man is by nature a political animal.

Dozens of previous studies have established a strong link between political persuasion and certain personality traits.

Conservatives tend to crave order and structure in their lives, and are more consistent in the way they make decisions.

Liberals, by contrast, show a higher tolerance for ambiguity and complexity, and adapt more easily to unexpected circumstances.

The affinity between political views and "cognitive style" has also been shown to be heritable, handed down from parents to children, said the study, published in the British journal Nature Neuroscience.

Conservatives, however, were less flexible, refusing to deviate from old habits "despite signals that this ... should be changed."

Whether that is good or bad, of course, depends on one's perspective: one could interpret the results to mean that liberals are nimble-minded and conservatives rigid and stubborn.
 
Dave... you left out the next line

"Or one could, with equal justice, conclude that wishy-washy liberals don't stick to their guns, while conservatives and steadfast and loyal."

Now why would you do that? Does the report say anything about liberals being dishonest when it suits their needs?
 
On Realtime, Maher said something funny about how Haggard, Craig and the like portray homosexuality as something that straight men struggle with every day, like it's some sort of temptation that every man has to deal with. If you feel that way, that you have to fight against impulses that attract you to men, make you want to get physically intimate with a man, then you are gay. Perhaps you can choose not to follow those impulses and not act on them, but that doesn't make you less gay, it makes you a closeted gay. There is no choice about attraction.
 
Things of a political nature are inherant for no other reason than self preservation of our own personal beliefs. And they are just beliefs. They can be changed also, and there no evidence whatsoever that opinions are hard wired. I have changed by own personal beliefs on a few issues over the years based on my looking at both sides of an argument and what makes logical sense to me. Some opinions have gone from conservative to liberal and vice-versa. But theyre all just opinions.

Do you believe that you were hard wired into thinking that $2.60/gal for gasoline is absolutely raping the public? I sure dont.
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
With Conservatives apparently hardwired with the AT gene (Autocracy/Theocracy) that is obviously not just anti-Democratic but anti-American.

Troll much? Go kill yourself Dave.

Well, its no different than Liberals afflicted by the gene that causes them to preach about helping the people then stealing all their money via taxes. I think its called compulsive lying.
 
I've long seen that there are basic differences in the way the 'left' and 'right' analyze issues, and think we're well off to study and try to understand it; the alternative is for simply the political operatives like Rove to do so, the way the advertising industry has for its areas, and to use the info for their own benefit.

I recommend reading 'Public Opinion' by Walter Lipmann, which is very relevant to how people 'really' form opinions even today though it was written in 1921 - soon after he was shocked to see the antiwar nation become converted to support WWI after a PR campaign challenged the basic notion of rational democracy.

For example, I had noticed the way that many people don't seem to have any rational activity on 'hot button' issues (say "Jane Fonda" to a right-winger, for example), and another study a bit ago confirmed with brain monitoring that indeed, 'hot button' political names and images are not analyzed rationally, only emotion kicks in.

We're in a position to supplement our understanding of how to make democracy work, at a time when it's important we do so in response to ever-more sophisticated techniquest of manipulating public opinion (which simply increasingly transfers our democracy into the hands of those few who can fund the media campaigns).
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Dave... you left out the next line

"Or one could, with equal justice, conclude that wishy-washy liberals don't stick to their guns, while conservatives and steadfast and loyal."

Now why would you do that?

Does the report say anything about liberals being dishonest when it suits their needs?

I didn't see liberals starting a false war.

How's that WMD in Iraq?
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1

Do you believe that you were hard wired into thinking that $2.60/gal for gasoline is absolutely raping the public? I sure dont.

Hmmmmm, maybe if gasoline was considered a neccesity and not a commodity.

I haven't seen $2.60 all year here. It's been at or over $3.

Why do you get to pay 40 cents per gallon less than me?

Why are you special?
 
As somewhat of a self confessed liberal, I used to have a co worker who was somewhat of a far right type. Because we could both restrain ourselves from using phony logic or fisticuffs, we spent many a lunch hour debating the events of the day.

What was somewhat surprising to both of us was that we both shared the same end goals but differed radically on the means to get to the goals.

I have no idea if those differences are genetic or not but the differences were radical.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1

Do you believe that you were hard wired into thinking that $2.60/gal for gasoline is absolutely raping the public? I sure dont.

Hmmmmm, maybe if gasoline was considered a neccesity and not a commodity.

I haven't seen $2.60 all year here. It's been at or over $3.

Why do you get to pay 40 cents per gallon less than me?

Why are you special?

How about keep this topic in your silly oil and gas thread. I was simply using it as an example of whether or not you believe that from conditioning or were you born with that trait? Thats all.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
As somewhat of a self confessed liberal, I used to have a co worker who was somewhat of a far right type. Because we could both restrain ourselves from using phony logic or fisticuffs, we spent many a lunch hour debating the events of the day.

What was somewhat surprising to both of us was that we both shared the same end goals but differed radically on the means to get to the goals.

I have no idea if those differences are genetic or not but the differences were radical.

You were both able to determine you had the same goals?

I don't see that with the Righties on here.

I try to get them to state their goal on many issues and for the U.S. but they won't come clean.

Why the hidden agenda?
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Lemon law
As somewhat of a self confessed liberal, I used to have a co worker who was somewhat of a far right type. Because we could both restrain ourselves from using phony logic or fisticuffs, we spent many a lunch hour debating the events of the day.

What was somewhat surprising to both of us was that we both shared the same end goals but differed radically on the means to get to the goals.

I have no idea if those differences are genetic or not but the differences were radical.

You were both able to determine you had the same goals?

I don't see that with the Righties on here.

I try to get them to state their goal on many issues and for the U.S. but they won't come clean.

Why the hidden agenda?

And you've told us in something other than one liners what you would like to see? I know I, for one, listed what I thought was best a few months ago in a very long post, in response to this same shit you always say.

And where in the world did you get hiddem agenda from? And why cant you answer questions people pose to you? Youre a flaming coward.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Conservatives tend to crave order and structure in their lives, and are more consistent in the way they make decisions.

Liberals, by contrast, show a higher tolerance for ambiguity and complexity, and adapt more easily to unexpected circumstances.

Can the undisciplined & unstructured mind truly perform logic?

Probrably not, but the creative one can clearly imagine and creat a *story* to support it's emotional *feelings*. It takes structure & discipline to overrule one's own emotions.

I'd be more interested in seeing a professional/educational breakdown of Conservatives and liberals.

I also think life experience and one's community have great influence on political leanings. Find someone who thinks of themselves as *a little person screwd by the big guy*, and whether by circumstances or lack of ability are unable to recover without government's help and you prolly find someone who supports gov assistance. And many people are sheeple, the crowd they happen to hang out with is a great influence.

Otherwise, this does seem a troll post.

Fern
 
What a ridiculous troll thread. Congrats, Dave on lowering the bar even further. I look forward to your next bout of stupidity.
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
What a ridiculous troll thread.

Congrats, Dave on lowering the bar even further.

I look forward to your next bout of stupidity.

Hmmmmmm, you act as if I was the one that wrote the article.

Do you have a comment on the article or just the OP as usual?
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: alchemize
What a ridiculous troll thread.

Congrats, Dave on lowering the bar even further.

I look forward to your next bout of stupidity.

Hmmmmmm, you act as if I was the one that wrote the article.

Do you have a comment on the article or just the OP as usual?

My comment was on your "With Conservatives apparently hardwired with the AT gene (Autocracy/Theocracy) that is obviously not just anti-Democratic but anti-American." troll.

I'd love to see a scientific study on why you're so willfully ignorant.
 
This article has little backbone:

1) Written by French writer in Paris
2) Uses study from British journal Nature Neuroscience.(opinion or factual article?)
3) 43 test subjects in a study from New York performed by a political scientist.(Hardly a large enough sample)

And just thinking about if genes did play a role, wouldn't the best test subjects be children?
 
I think the big difference is how we came out of the concentration camp we were all put through as children. Did we disconnect from the self we were taught to hate like Republican authoritarians by identifying with our torturers, or did we disconnect from the self by identifying with other external victims of that torture.
 
All I can do is laugh at this, seriously laugh; I was already grinning when I saw the title of the thread and the name of the OP. And then I saw the anti-American quip.

Troll on Dave; bit of a rough day at work here, so thanks for the laugh. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think the big difference is how we came out of the concentration camp we were all put through as children. Did we disconnect from the self we were taught to hate like Republican authoritarians by identifying with our torturers, or did we disconnect from the self by identifying with other external victims of that torture.

It's all the Id's fault
 
What about ?Homo Sodomus? there seems to be a lot of them pooping, I mean popping up on the republican side lately.
 
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