home wiring

[mitchie]

Just moved into a brand new house. I want to wire each room with Cat5e cable which should not be a problem since I have access via an unfinished basement. I did notice that the cables that have been run to each phone jack use 5e cabling. This surprised me since 5e is rated for gigabit. Surely this is overkill for a phone?

Any chance I could use the existing 5e wiring for a LAN and keep phone functionality? I assume that if I did, LAN transfer speeds would not be gigabit since I would lose a twisted pair to the phone.

If I do run separate 5e for the LAN, would it be a problem if the new cables ran side by side with the existing phone wires?

Thanks for reading!

 

[JackMDS]

OverKill by spending few cent more per feet $$ ? Nah.

It is not advisable to run Tel. and Network in the same cable, and if you plan on Giga it is impossible since Giga need the whole cable.

May be this can Help, Wiring - I would like to wire my Networked Computers (Home Wiring).

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[robphelan]

Originally posted by: JackMDS
OverKill by spending few cent more per feet $$ ? Nah.

It is not advisable to run Tel. and Network in the same cable, and if you plan on Giga it is impossible since Giga need the whole cable.

May be this can Help, Wiring - I would like to wire my Networked Computers (Home Wiring).

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my house has cat5 for phone cable - only 2 wires hooked up at each jack. when you mention that it's not advisable to run Tel & network on the same cable, do you mean it's possible to have both (without VOIP) simultaneously on the same cable.

the reason i'm asking is that I want all the outlets converted to network outlets (we do have VOIP), but, when we sell the house, I don't want that to be a major drawback to anyone.

 

[JackMDS]

Regular Telephone (Not VOIP) maintains relatively high voltage on the line and generates spikes of hundreds of volts when it rings.

Such an activity occurring inside one cable cerates noise that might interfere with Network activities, thus pros avoid such a wiring scheme.

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[scottws]

I realize it's more expensive, by why not wire the home with CAT6. That would future-proof you a bit better.

 

[cmetz]

mitchie, phones are wired in a daisy chain loop around the house, network is star-wired. It's just run differently. And while the cable might be cat5, the connections between cable segments are probably screw terminals on the back of phone jacks, which is what we call "unrated."

If your phone is cabled cat5, you should be fine running next to it. Worry more about noise from power cables.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: cmetz
mitchie, phones are wired in a daisy chain loop around the house, network is star-wired. It's just run differently. And while the cable might be cat5, the connections between cable segments are probably screw terminals on the back of phone jacks, which is what we call "unrated."

If your phone is cabled cat5, you should be fine running next to it. Worry more about noise from power cables.

That brings up a good point. The typical phone system is daisychained out of convenience, but it causes troubleshooting nightmares.

If somebody is wiring a house fresh, please make all phone cables home runs too. Just do it and terminate to a 66 block. you can cross connect it there, and later on anyone who follows will thank you.

I spend plenty of time fixing issues with daisychains, and they do not work for other things. IF a system is home run, i can use a pair for alarms, etc. it is very convenient, and a breeze to troubleshoot.