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Home theater upgrade looks ridiculous!

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AndrewR

Lifer
Check it out: Yamaha center channel on ancient Samsung TV.

I just found a decent center channel to go with my somewhat new tower speakers (Kenwoods, not great but sound great to me) which had been drowning out the previous Infinity center channel that came with the HTS-20 system I bought about 5 years ago (still using sub and two rear channels). The Yamaha is a very nice upgrade, but it looks silly perched on our TV, which is 7 years old at this point and due to be replaced when we return to the States in a few months.

The TV goes and then the receiver goes. Slowly but surely on the path to a nice HT setup.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
I agree, ridiculous.
In time though, all things in time.
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The TV is vying with a camera for next big purchase. Since we currently only have one channel and are limited in watching movies because the baby's room is right above these speakers, the camera is gaining ground on the TV. 😉
 
Too bad you didn't get a slightly bigger center speaker or you could've put the TV on top of it instead. 😛
 
normally dont you want matched center, and side speakers so that as the sound flows from one side to the other it doesnt randomly get louder?

MIKE
 
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
normally dont you want matched center, and side speakers so that as the sound flows from one side to the other it doesnt randomly get louder?

MIKE
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You should know quite well you dont match output by having the same speaker size.
You CAN, but its certainly not the only way.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
normally dont you want matched center, and side speakers so that as the sound flows from one side to the other it doesnt randomly get louder?

MIKE
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You should know quite well you dont match output by having the same speaker size.
You CAN, but its certainly not the only way.
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i wasnt talking about just that.

but you also have the difference in speaker quality, the output quality etc.

MIKE
 
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
normally dont you want matched center, and side speakers so that as the sound flows from one side to the other it doesnt randomly get louder?

MIKE
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You should know quite well you dont match output by having the same speaker size.
You CAN, but its certainly not the only way.
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i wasnt talking about just that.

but you also have the difference in speaker quality, the output quality etc.

MIKE
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True, but all that usually goes beyond the scope of "home theater" and gets into the realm of "home hi-fi' type stuff.
And I'd certainly wager such minor differences are well beyond the concerns of any poster on ATOT. 😉

 
Dude, first off the problem you should be concerned with is mixing a Yamaha speaker with Kenwoods. You are never going to fix the problem you had with your Infinity/Kenwood match unless you get a matching Kenwood center or get rid of the Kenwood towers for some Yamaha towers.

For the center channel placement, you need to either : 1) upgrade that tv, 2) put the center below the tv into that stand the tv is on, or 3) build a box that sits the center below the tv and the tv on top of the box.
 
Yeah, you want to keep the front 3 speakers the same brand with the same driver/tweeter/crossover so pans from left to right and right to left across that front soundstage don't change when they go from the mains to the center.

I agree it's not a big deal, but it's definately desireable, it's called timbre matching. It's not important for the surrounds though since you generally don't pan much to those so it doesn't matter.
 
Well, the Kenwoods were on sale when I bought them for about half price, and Kenwood apparently doesn't MAKE a center channel that's separate from an entire HT system (if someone can find one, I'm all...er, ears). The Yamaha, NS-C444, was half price (paid $62 for it, same one is $149 online!), and I can't afford right now the Yamaha NS-555 towers that I would want to pair with the center for $500. So, I have to make do right now with mismatched brands.

That being said, watching movies is entirely different now as I'm hearing sounds like I've never heard before. Watched the 2nd Matrix movie, and the scene where Neo is fighting the Smiths in the playground was incredible. Don't notice the timbre difference yet, but we'll see.

Geez, just realized that I seriously low-balled a CD player I just sold, a Yamaha CDC-685. Sold it for $80 (paid about $140), but it's selling online for $229! :Q Oops!
 
Originally posted by: AndrewR
Well, the Kenwoods were on sale when I bought them for about half price, and Kenwood apparently doesn't MAKE a center channel that's separate from an entire HT system (if someone can find one, I'm all...er, ears). The Yamaha, NS-C444, was half price (paid $62 for it, same one is $149 online!), and I can't afford right now the Yamaha NS-555 towers that I would want to pair with the center for $500. So, I have to make do right now with mismatched brands.

That being said, watching movies is entirely different now as I'm hearing sounds like I've never heard before. Watched the 2nd Matrix movie, and the scene where Neo is fighting the Smiths in the playground was incredible. Don't notice the timbre difference yet, but we'll see.

Geez, just realized that I seriously low-balled a CD player I just sold, a Yamaha CDC-685. Sold it for $80 (paid about $140), but it's selling online for $229! :Q Oops!
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You know.... if you like the sound of the center you got better than you mains too, there's nothing wrong with having centers as your fronts too. If you can get a good deal on two more, it might be something to think about. You would have quite the matched set then heh. Your mains could become your surrounds and your surrounds could move to the rear for 7.1. You do have a sub, right? This wouldn't work well if you didn't and needed something with a lot of bass in the fronts....

Ok, just a thought 🙂
 
Get a TV for crying out loud man, that thing is junk to the tenth power.


But dont worry about mixing speakers ...its not that big of a deal at all. I laugh at the HT newbs who proclaim mixing speaker to be one of the 7 deadly sins. Its simply just not true these days, most modern HT decks have an EQ that can compensate quite a bit. Id recommend a Pioneer 1014TX and let it auto calibrate the center for you.


Bottom line is you have bigger problems that need to be dealt with first , your speakers can be upgraded another time.

Get a bigger display man...way bigger.
 
Originally posted by: AndrewR
Well, the Kenwoods were on sale when I bought them for about half price, and Kenwood apparently doesn't MAKE a center channel that's separate from an entire HT system (if someone can find one, I'm all...er, ears). The Yamaha, NS-C444, was half price (paid $62 for it, same one is $149 online!), and I can't afford right now the Yamaha NS-555 towers that I would want to pair with the center for $500. So, I have to make do right now with mismatched brands.

That being said, watching movies is entirely different now as I'm hearing sounds like I've never heard before. Watched the 2nd Matrix movie, and the scene where Neo is fighting the Smiths in the playground was incredible. Don't notice the timbre difference yet, but we'll see.

Geez, just realized that I seriously low-balled a CD player I just sold, a Yamaha CDC-685. Sold it for $80 (paid about $140), but it's selling online for $229! :Q Oops!
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I have one of these with my Kenwood HTIB setup..probably not as good as yours, though 😛
 
Make a platform to set the TV on top of and put the center channel speaker below it.

BTW-Mismatched front speakers is a no-no.
 
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
normally dont you want matched center, and side speakers so that as the sound flows from one side to the other it doesnt randomly get louder?

MIKE
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you can adjust a modern, good quality receiver for volume on any speaker, independantly, the problem is timber matching the different speakers, different brands with different cabinets will sound different. most people who don't know better can't tell the difference, so it's probably not a big deal. I myself have JBL center and surrounds, and Mission fronts, it sounds OK, but eventually I am going to get Mission surrounds and center. 😉
 
Originally posted by: dsfunk
That's like 4000 dollars worth of rims on a 1500 dollar car.
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Just call me a home theater ricer. 😀

We've been waiting to upgrade the TV and finally decided NOT to buy one here because we would only be covered for $1600 on the move back to the States because of the liability limits for moving companies in their contracts with the military. I almost did purchase a JVC 16:9 aspect HD CRT, but we had other spending priorities. Now we're waiting for our Stateside move before we buy because I also noticed that the prices in the military store aren't the best.

Make a platform to set the TV on top of and put the center channel speaker below it.
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That's what I'm planning on doing once we move to our new place. Little sense doing that now when we leave in 2 months.

you're in Japan? best place in the world for electronic consumer goods? there can be no excuse.
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Check out the current yen rate and then get back to me. :roll: Got $13,000 for the best TVs here?
 
I didn't last long with my 24" apex tv and my new sound system. I originally planned on doing the sound 1 year (used my tax refund) and then doing video the next year, but I decided it was just stupid to have a sound system worth ten times what the display cost.

Do you know what kind of display you're going to get when you come back?
 
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