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JE78

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Originally posted by: bdubyah
well, could you not just keep your wii hooked up to your TV? not like a wii really needs 5.1 surround sound anyways.

but anyways, i finally decided on the onkyo S4100s. bad part is, they were $305 when i ordered them, and less than an hour later, they had them for $290! damn my luck.

I did some looking around, even though the Sony doesn't have component input you can still plug the audio into the receiver and the video of the component cables into the TV, then you have your surround sound and component video. But your right, its a Wii, not like it need to be hooked up anyway. II think i've decided on the Sony so I think i'll be picking that up tonight after work.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: JE78
Originally posted by: bdubyah
well, could you not just keep your wii hooked up to your TV? not like a wii really needs 5.1 surround sound anyways.

but anyways, i finally decided on the onkyo S4100s. bad part is, they were $305 when i ordered them, and less than an hour later, they had them for $290! damn my luck.

I did some looking around, even though the Sony doesn't have component input you can still plug the audio into the receiver and the video of the component cables into the TV, then you have your surround sound and component video. But your right, its a Wii, not like it need to be hooked up anyway. II think i've decided on the Sony so I think i'll be picking that up tonight after work.

Out of curiosity...what makes you want that over the Onkyo?
 

Burrens78

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: JE78
Originally posted by: bdubyah
well, could you not just keep your wii hooked up to your TV? not like a wii really needs 5.1 surround sound anyways.

but anyways, i finally decided on the onkyo S4100s. bad part is, they were $305 when i ordered them, and less than an hour later, they had them for $290! damn my luck.

I did some looking around, even though the Sony doesn't have component input you can still plug the audio into the receiver and the video of the component cables into the TV, then you have your surround sound and component video. But your right, its a Wii, not like it need to be hooked up anyway. II think i've decided on the Sony so I think i'll be picking that up tonight after work.

Out of curiosity...what makes you want that over the Onkyo?

The Sony does LPCM 5.1 through HDMI. I don't think the s4100 has HDMI (I might be wrong though).
 

PurdueRy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Burrens78
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: JE78
Originally posted by: bdubyah
well, could you not just keep your wii hooked up to your TV? not like a wii really needs 5.1 surround sound anyways.

but anyways, i finally decided on the onkyo S4100s. bad part is, they were $305 when i ordered them, and less than an hour later, they had them for $290! damn my luck.

I did some looking around, even though the Sony doesn't have component input you can still plug the audio into the receiver and the video of the component cables into the TV, then you have your surround sound and component video. But your right, its a Wii, not like it need to be hooked up anyway. II think i've decided on the Sony so I think i'll be picking that up tonight after work.

Out of curiosity...what makes you want that over the Onkyo?

The Sony does LPCM 5.1 through HDMI. I don't think the s4100 has HDMI (I might be wrong though).

Looks great on paper doesn't it? However do you really think there will be a noticeable difference between DD and DTS and lossless when played through a receiver/DVD player and HTiB speakers? I highly doubt it.

The speakers are 3 ohm speakers and use proprietary connections so those cannot be upgraded.

The receiver weighs 8 lbs...which typically is a sign of its amplication quality.

The subwoofer is a passive design and uses a 6" woofer.

I could complain about the 1000W of claimed power when they choose to rate it at a VERY unrealistic 1KHz 10% THD measurement...but I would just assume the actual power output is much lower considering the power consumption rating in operation is a grand total of 165W for 6 speakers.

The power consumption of the Onkyo is 276W and it doesn't have to power a sub(5 speakers). The receiver is more than double the weight of the Sony which also matches the increase in max power capability.

The sub in the Onkyo is also a more respectable 8" design.
 

JE78

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Burrens78
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: JE78
Originally posted by: bdubyah
well, could you not just keep your wii hooked up to your TV? not like a wii really needs 5.1 surround sound anyways.

but anyways, i finally decided on the onkyo S4100s. bad part is, they were $305 when i ordered them, and less than an hour later, they had them for $290! damn my luck.

I did some looking around, even though the Sony doesn't have component input you can still plug the audio into the receiver and the video of the component cables into the TV, then you have your surround sound and component video. But your right, its a Wii, not like it need to be hooked up anyway. II think i've decided on the Sony so I think i'll be picking that up tonight after work.

Out of curiosity...what makes you want that over the Onkyo?

The Sony does LPCM 5.1 through HDMI. I don't think the s4100 has HDMI (I might be wrong though).

Looks great on paper doesn't it? However do you really think there will be a noticeable difference between DD and DTS and lossless when played through a receiver/DVD player and HTiB speakers? I highly doubt it.
Maybe, maybe not but if I decide to upgrade speakers and the sub i'll have the unit to hear the difference.

 

PurdueRy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JE78
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Burrens78
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: JE78
Originally posted by: bdubyah
well, could you not just keep your wii hooked up to your TV? not like a wii really needs 5.1 surround sound anyways.

but anyways, i finally decided on the onkyo S4100s. bad part is, they were $305 when i ordered them, and less than an hour later, they had them for $290! damn my luck.

I did some looking around, even though the Sony doesn't have component input you can still plug the audio into the receiver and the video of the component cables into the TV, then you have your surround sound and component video. But your right, its a Wii, not like it need to be hooked up anyway. II think i've decided on the Sony so I think i'll be picking that up tonight after work.

Out of curiosity...what makes you want that over the Onkyo?

The Sony does LPCM 5.1 through HDMI. I don't think the s4100 has HDMI (I might be wrong though).

Looks great on paper doesn't it? However do you really think there will be a noticeable difference between DD and DTS and lossless when played through a receiver/DVD player and HTiB speakers? I highly doubt it.
Maybe, maybe not but if I decide to upgrade speakers and the sub i'll have the unit to hear the difference.

No you won't. Read my post above...the speakers are not upgradeable.

 

JE78

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yes they are, I found an adapter, can't remember the site but I was given a link to one.
 

JE78

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Damn dude, your talking to me like I just kicked your cat or something. As I said in my first post I don't know much about home audio and i'm trying to learn, give me reasons, examples whatever, just don't be a dick about it.
 

PurdueRy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JE78
Damn dude, your talking to me like I just kicked your cat or something. As I said in my first post I don't know much about home audio and i'm trying to learn, give me reasons, examples whatever, just don't be a dick about it.

Wow, I'm being a dick? Look up a few posts, I gave you MANY reasons there.

I have tried to make many points and I have corrected your misconceptions. I don't have to help and I didn't have to read up on the Sony system but I did with the intention of helping you.
 

JE78

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Are you saying the 4100 is better out of the box than the SS2300 or for future upgrades? I just don't understand how a system with no HDMI is better than a system with HDMI when there is a PS3 system involved that takes advantage of the HDMI bandwidth.
 

PurdueRy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JE78
Are you saying the 4100 is better out of the box than the SS2300 or for future upgrades? I just don't understand how a system with no HDMI is better than a system with HDMI when there is a PS3 system involved that takes advantage of the HDMI bandwidth.

It's better out of the box and for future upgrades.

Out of the box the receiver is more capable(with the exception of HDMI) which has more inputs and more power. It comes with a power subwoofer which is a significant step up from the HTiB passive design. In addition it uses a 8" sub instead of a 6".

For future expansion:

You can use the receiver when and if you choose to upgrade to more expensive receivers until you find it necessary to upgrade that as well. It again has more inputs which will allow you to connect game systems, DVD players, TV's etc.


The only advantage the Sony system has is, as you mentioned HDMI. The only advantage that gives you is the lossless audio formats. If you were looking into a more expensive system then I would definitely recommend spending to extra money to get that feature. However, as I mentioned before, I doubt that you will notice the difference between the DD and DTS tracks the PS3 can output and the lossless audio tracks with the speakers the sony system comes with. Also as I mentioned before, you can't upgrade the speakers on the sony system so if you wanted to get better speakers to better justify the lossless audio, you would be out of luck with that receiver.